Ltfightr

I'm the DL. We meet every Monday at 7 unless it was a school holiday. If the meeting has to be cancled at the last minute because of weather I CALL every one of my parents. If I can't make it(hasn't happened yet) I will call the CM and send my DH in my place and he will run the meeting(he is our DS's partern so the others know him). If we are doing something instead of the meeting (Go See It in a different spot or on a weekend), I will send a note home with the boys as a reminders. I work in thier school so I see them every day at lunch and after school. The parents know I send stuff home with them sometimes. And I'll call later. So, you have had 4 den meetings total? How did you do all of the "Den Activties" and "Go See Its" with only 4 total meetings? Or did I misunderstand? Diana

I'm a first year Tiger leader so I don't know much about Boy Scouts. But how about a fire starting type challage? Might work best on a camping trip? Start with nothing, have to find all the wood (tinder, ect), and start with anything BUT matches/ligther, maybe only 3 matches? What were some of the SPL's ideas? Were they something you could build on? Diana

I'm the Den Leader and DH is the Adult with DS. That works very well for us because DS has someone to focus on just him when we do stuff and I can focus on ALL the boys. We have one who comes with dad, one who comes with mom, one who comes with GREAT-grandpa, and two who come with both (mine and another).

I have my Den's beads going in the order of the Achievements: Family, Den, Go See It, Tiger Tracks. The beads are spilt 3 and 2 on the lanyard. I don't think there is really a "right" way to do it. I might change the way my son's are once he gets the all(or even right now)because I like the way it's done in the uniform guide better. The way I have them now they keep coming undone. ETA: I'm going to keep them in the same order. It just make sence to go that way. Reading left to right. Diana(This message has been edited by Ltfightr)

In GS we have something call "Bannan Boats" ---- cut a bannan open leaving the peel on. Stuff with chocolatre chips and mini marshmellow. Wrap in foil. Sit around the edge of a campfire and heat until warm. Pretty good! Diana

I think the Moving Up Ceremony is the key here. Until then they are the "old" rank but after they can start working on the new stuff. Diana

I think it should be a group effort. The Den Leader needs to help keep them focused on the book. And the parents need to help them learn what is in the book. This is just talking about the rank badges. We have a little something sort of like the "Advance-aree" but it's a weekend camping trip where they can earn up to 4 belt loops or none, it's up to them. This is my first year and I would hate to see that go away. Mostly because it looks like the only time my pack goes camping. And we (as a family) love to camp. Diana

Oh man! Normally I do but this year I didn't because his grandparents said they wanted to pick him up for the afternoon. I'll remember that about the pin 'cus next month we are doing that belt loop. Thanks for the heads up. Diana

That shows how well I'VE been paying attenetion. My DH has been has been the Parent Partner for our son so I've just skeemed the book in places. I guess I'm off the read later! Thanks Scoutnut and everyone eles. Diana

ScoutNut said: "how do I make what the Den is doing fit that Achievement if they have nothing to do with each other.....Need 1D (Family Scrapbook cover) and we are making Tye-Dye shirts?" Tye-dye shirts are not even remotely close to scrapbooks. Making shirts simply does NOT complete Tiger requirement #1D - period. Why would you even try to use it in that fashion??? ME: I know the shirts arn't even close to scrapbooks. I was using that as an example. Put whatever you want into the the 2 spots. I KNOW they had nothing to do with each other. I even said that in the first part of the sentance. 6 of the boys have #1D, 2 of the boys come and they still need #1D...Do I somehow plan something that will fit that spot for next week and hope they show up again or do the 2 other boys just do it on their own? If they do it on their own how does that make it a DEN Achievement? What it stoping the other parents when they see I'm letting the other 2 boys do a DEN Achievement at home from having a fit because I'm make THEIR child do it in the DEN? ScoutNut: "Need ALL FIVE Dens but everyone eles has finished them and have the Tiger Badge already?" Your Pack has 5 Tiger Dens? What do you need all 5 dens for? Every den, and every Scout in every den, works at THEIR OWN PACE. If the other 4 dens have already received their Bobcat and Tiger Badges, GOOD FOR THEM! They must have been working their bottoms off to get everything done in less than 2 months (or did they start in June?). What the other dens are doing, or not doing, has no relevance to what YOUR den is doing. ME: No, we have 1 Tiger Den. There are FIVE DEN ACHIEVEMENTS. Sorry the sentacne should of read..."5 of the boys have finished all five of the five den achievements and have gotten the Tiger Badge. The 2 other boys who don't come all the time just happened to miss all 5 meetings where the Den worked on the Den Achievevments. Do I or the Tiger Team leading the meeting somehow try to do something that would work or let them do it on their own?" I guess I thought everyone could read my mind and know what I was trying to say. LOL JAYMEDINC: Yeah, I'm working hard on making sure the ones who come get stuff. I've told the whole group that we will be working on one Belt Loop a month so we can get lots of stuff. I was in Girl Scouts for years and one of my troops did that and that is the troop I remember the most. I really want to give the boys what I got out of scouts. The friendships, the fun, the learning, and some badges (ok Belt loops but you know what I mean). EVERYONE: I don't know if guilt would work with my group. I can see some of them "forgetting" the nights they have to do it. I'm going to puch the shared a bit more AFTER I make sure we finish all the Tiger Achievements. I would hate to have one of them in charge of the the last "whatever" and then not show and I have nothing ready.

Not really on the shared leadership. I can't get the other parents to help with it. When I told them about that part, I heard crickets they got quite that fast. *sigh* They do help some when they get there but I can't depend on most of them to be a every meeting. Even when they KNEW the kids were getting belt loops the next week they didn't show up. I've tried but what can I do. Diana

I'm a first time Den Leader for my son't Tiger Den. We have 6-8 boys in the den. 3 show up all the time, if there is something I say I will be at, I know there will be at least 2 more besides my son there. The other 5 don't show up every time. 3 of those are an every other meeting and the other 2 are "once a month" kids. I know I can't drive them to the meetings or force them to come but how do I make sure they get the Den Achievements done? I don't want to redo the ones we have done for the ones to make up but how do I make what the Den is doing fit that Achievement if they have nothing to do with each other.....Need 1D (Family Scrapbook cover) and we are making Tye-Dye shirts? Need ALL FIVE Dens but everyone eles has finished them and have the Tiger Badge already? Any thoughts? Thanks! Diana