I understand where you are coming from. It has been my goal to get Webelos IIs off with out the family. It mostly works out but, as some have mentioned, it is tough for a parent to be on a campout and leave a sibling behind. When that does happen I let them know up front that the Webelos will tent and camp as patrol. Any extra campers are off to the side. I know there are some kids that wouldn't come if I was absolute on Webelos only.