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Looks good to me and I'm a McLaren.

>>Just how do we know that BP imagined western scouts and pioneers in shorts? Did BP say so or draw them as such?

This jamboree site is pretty isolated from what I read. Also, the new setup will be pretty primitive compared to the Hill. Troops will not be allowed to bring all the stuff they used to bring. It will be interesting to see what effect this has on future jamboree attendance. I'm declining a staff opportunity for this one because I'm just too danggoned old to try out something experimental.

Unfortunately, most of those films were not preserved and either were thrown out or are unusable. If you search around, you can find some DVD's and VHS tapes with clips from some of those old films.

I'm not a "birther," although I'm not altogether sure he was born in Hawaii. The birth announcements only prove that his grandparents wanted to get his name out there. However, something is wrong with Obama's history and the problem is one of his own making. First (and speaking as a former Hawaii resident), a Certificate of Live Birth is very easy to get in Hawaii. It doesn't prove that you are born there. Why doesn't he simply produce the original and end the issue? Next, this is not the only bit of Obama history that is missing or not available. He never released any of his college records. Why not? Could it be because he was there under a different name? He was known as Barry Soetero for some years and lived in Indonesia under that name where he claimed Indonesian citizenship. The Constitution doesn't address the issue of native or natural born citizens who take other citizenship - Indonesia doesn't recognize dual citizenship. There are a number of other issues (such as why nobody who went to school with him remembers him), but I hope you see my point. Something here is hidden and we don't know what it is. He could simply end it by producing all this stuff, but he won't.

>>The objection is when someone says that it is OK to mix one with the BSA uniform or that BSA or Woodbadge endorses it

I don't know what anybody has against the kilt. As a direct descendant of a MacLaren who died on the field at Culloden, I wear it proudly and once had a troop honor guard that wore the tartan and appropriate regalia for special occasions. One of our reviewers was Bill Hillcourt, who heartily approved. As to it being a fad, it's been fairly popular in Scotland for over 400 years. I have pictures of Lord Rowallan, Chief Scout of Great Britain wearing his clan kilt at Schiff in the 1940's.

NJCubscouter writes: Sounds like a law school exam question. You write a bluebook page or two on why it is a crime, then another page or two on why it isn't. (Do they have bluebooks anymore? Or do you just type the answer on your laptop and email it to the professor?) I've wondered that myself. All the infomercials I get from my alma mater show nothing but a sea of laptops. I doubt most of those students could actually write for three hours like we did. BTW, I concur in your legal opinion.

I'd say we may as well close the whole forum.

"Using your logic then every questionable or potentially harmful activity would then have to be banned" Just wait. Only a matter of time.

I'm truly glad to have been part of Scouting for so many years when it was the real deal. This new crap may not be the end of Scouting, but it's a big signpost. I think last year's FOS will be my last contribution.

Gates is always promoting Scouting. When he was Director of Central Intelligence, there were Scouting posters all over the building at Langley.

1/ How skilled in Scout-Craft were you before you took the course? Pretty skilled. Eagle Scout, Philmont, Canoe Base, Scoutmaster, etc. 2/ What skills did you learn on /from the course Learned a lot about leadership and the patrol method. Came home and reorganized my troop, including a month in which I turned the troop over to an ASM and acted as SPL for a month to demonstrate what boy leadership was all about. Made a total change in the boy leadership that lasted as long as I was SM. 3/How much time was spent cooking meals and clearing up each day? Hard to recall exactly (40 years ago), but 2 hours might be right. I took WB at Philmont so the others in my patrol were pretty skilled and motivated.

We have the Scout Oath and the DRP on the application, so everyone knows what the religious obligation is. However, some may not be expecting a Christian prayer at the opening of a court of honor or a troop meeting. Unless the sponsor expects it, it's probably better to skip the prayer and hold a moment of silence or something else. Don't get me wrong: you certainly can do it if you wish, but . . . As a Buddhist, I've been to many public meeting places where Christian prayers are said and do not take offense, but unless it's a worship service, I sort of wonder why they are doing it. Just two cents worth from a non-Christian.

If you enjoy stamp collecting and can find some Scouts who are interested, I would encourage you to do that as much as possible. I worked the Stamp Collecting MB at the Jamboree and we were swamped. Most of those kids were not collectors, but hopefully some of them are now. Philately is dying of old age.

If you enjoy stamp collecting and can find some Scouts who are interested, I would encourage you to do that as much as possible. I worked the Stamp Collecting MB at the Jamboree and we were swamped. Most of those kids were not collectors, but hopefully some of them are now. Philately is dying of old age.

I wore the red piping pockets as a youth and the adult equivalent later. I still think the best-looking uniform they've had was the dark green Explorer short sleeve shirt with the regular BS green shorts. Red garter tabs. (1950's-1980) Perfect combo.

Blessings and peace to all at this season.

I going to have to bring an battery powered alarm clock to camp next year and stop depending on the alarm feature on the phone. (Because that's the last year I bring the cell phone!) Do what I do: set the phone in airplane mode. Most cells have this capability. You can't get calls or texts, but you can use all the other functions. Just don't forget to turn off airplane mode when you get up.

It's great that they brought that out for the Centennial. When I was living out there, it remained in the vault all the time. The SE told me they were afraid to display it because of possibility of theft and deterioration. That's the first time I've seen a picture of it. Thanks stradguy!

Beavah: Terror, from which we get terrorism is defined as a state of extreme fear. The fact that these guys are exposing U.S. government secrets scares the heck out of me. Worse, you and I don't know who or what has been or may be blown up as a result of their actions. As to treason, I'm sure you know the SCOTUS has ruled that only witnesses, including investigators, to the fact that the act was treasonous are required. Confession is also allowed. I have no doubt a successful treason case can be put together. It's all very well to talk about shining a light on the actions of government, but to endanger lives and put national relationships in jeopardy is another thing. It's true that if Assange were a U.S. citizen or had he committed the act in the U.S. the First Amendment would apply to him. So would the Espionage Act (18 U.S.C. 793 : US Code - Section 793). He isn't a citizen, but the Espionage Act appears to apply to what he did. I stand by my original thoughts.

It didn't take long to get back to comparing everything to George Bush, did it? As to the issue Beavah raised: Wikileaks is foreign entity that poses a threat to the U.S. We should deal with them as terrorists. The young man who leaked the classified material, if convicted, would be guilty of treason. The penalty for that is death. Will we do any of that? Not likely.

I'm sorry to tell you that we all will have to learn to deal with cell phones on the person of almost every Scout. Contrary to all predictions of disaster, cell phones at the 2010 Jamboree seemed to work out very well. No matter what rules you have, Scouts will have them. Best course of action is to train them how to use them. Having said that, cell phones are like religion: Nothing said will change anybody's mind.

Goes back to about 1910 in Central Florida. There were troops operating here then. The council was incorporated in 1924. It's very difficult to find information in most places about the early days of Scouting.

Truth be told, I joined Scouting as a progression from Cub Scouts, over fifty years ago. My first troop was a dud and when we transferred overseas, I probably would never have rejoined Scouting. As luck would have it, I made it into a good troop that did a lot of camping and made friends with a lot of guys I liked. I liked the camping, I liked the leadership, the uniform and a lot of stuff. But the main thing was, I really fell in love with Scouting. Something about the whole thing just grabbed me and has stayed with me since. From the postings here over the years I see that the same thing has happened to a lot other guys, which is why I guess we have a bunch of leaders who are willing to give time and spend money guiding a bunch of kids, most or none of which are theirs.