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Unfortunately, I guess there is no financial incentive to settle this any time soon.

Some people feel that way, I may not agree with that, but I at least acknowledge their right to their opinion. It doesn't necessarily mean that they don't care about the victims.

True, but people don't need to slam others who don't agree 100% with their point of view.

If the lawyers care that much, let's see them kick back some of their fees to the victims. Before you start another tirade, it makes as much sense as asking the present and future scouts to pay for the deeds of others.

You keep forgetting, nobody has ever called the victims vultures, the lawyers who are reaping millions in funds that should be going to the victims yes,

I was always wondering that. If the victims of 40-50 years ago have nobody left around with the appropriate memory to support their statements, what then? What are all these statements about people being offered 1500 to just go away? Does this include these people who have no outside proof of the abuse?

I have had both injections (Pfizer). Arm was a little sore for a few hours.

Does this time period expire when a judge makes a ruling?

It's under Claiment Discussion section a few lines down from Wednesday.

Welcome, CyncialScouter did a really good job of explaining the process a few days ago. His post is somewhere in the section recently.

Excellent point, I think we are all in agreement on a tort system in the muck. Not slamming the victims.

So am I not understanding this? I have been told by the BSA, if you can believe that, that the are very proactive in efforts to prevent child abuse, more do than other groups. Is this not true? What further things should be done?

Interesting point you made on Chapter 7. I had been told that a non-profit could not be sued into oblivion, but you are right, if the parties will not accept any kind of settlement other than a Chapter 7, the lawyer fees will eventually do in the BSA

Possibly. Impossible to tell at this point.

Really sad that the people who actually committed these crimes go free, while innocent present and FUTURE scouts and scouters will pay. When the BSA is eliminated, sexual predators will still be around, maybe other youth groups may be more or less successful at preventing their activities. Nobody really wins, the lawyers get rich, the victims get a cash settlement, which may or may not make things better for them, and the world will no longer have a scouting program.

I must admit, I am seriously thinking about waiting on any FOS contribution. I am all for supporting Scouts, not some lawyers get rich quick scheme.

Thanks much. That clarifies things. Are there any legal proceedings against other youth groups out there, Boys & Girls clubs, GSA, youth sports organizations? Or is the BSA being singled out?

Thanks for the info

Is there anybody out there checking on the truth of these 84000 cases? I would think that some of the cases that supposedly happened 30-50 years ago would not be provable? I would have no way of knowing but I would guess some of those 84000 cases are somebody saying yes, I was abused, give me the cash.

Also curious, if the horrible person's behavior was not reported by the victims, how was the BSA supposed to have known what was going on? Is passing the abuse forward, by depriving present and future scouts of a scouting program, really the way these folks want to go? The people who committed the crimes are the ones who should be punished.

Thanks. People start using abbreviations, and if you have not been reading every post, you have no idea what people are talking about.

TCC?

The bottom line, it is impossible to get rid of YP problems. Those types of people are going to find a way to wiggle through the system. You can implement all sorts of policies to make it much more difficult for someone to assault youth, but 100% elimination is not possible.

Great idea.