Jkaufman_95

Snipe Hunting, ghost stories then "haunting" the tent, stringing a cot up in the tree only acceptable to me as the SPL if its to a scout or group of scouts that will take it well and not get upset destructive or potentially harmful pranks (saran wrapping kids to cots, baiting tents for wildlife) is NOT ok to me and the offender will be punished

lrsap, Thank you for the Thank you, i am 17, but have held a steady job since i was 10, so i am very mature in dealing with people, I did error in saying "attempted", you did make your point. "But my biggest fear for any troop using the singing method is the scout that does leave due to embarrassment" I agree with this point totally, and like you said it what works for troop 1 doesn't exactly work for troop 2, but I have never personally had a scout leave out of embarrassment, I had one young scout pass out at a Mem day service the other day, and we initiated all the care he needed we determined he was more embarrassed then anything, we took him home, still embarrassed. i stopped by the next day to make sure he was okay and to assure he wasn't to embarrassed to come back, he told me he wouldn't miss scouting for the world, i know its not exactly the same situation but it gives you a little insight to how things like that are handled personally by me and by our troop, I could be mistaken on your use of grammar, I apologize, I do have to say, i am stubborn, but i do not believe i "know it all", i am simply disappointed in a few of the new rules and reqs we have to live by, when i was a greenhorn in our troop i was picked on something terrible by the senior scouts, and i stuck around. and i just dislike the horseplay, that does cause some serious hard feelings between the boys from what I've noticed, and I've had pranks played on me and played pranks on some kids, but i stay up to about 1 am at camp to make sure everyone is in their tent and asleep.

I have hiked with both (and multiple models of both) i hiked Philmont in 10 with a Kelty RedCloud 5600. I personally like a internal better, i seem to hit my head or just feel uncomfortable with an external.

I Compress my bag in a Kelty Compression sack (which i DO NOT suggest) when im hiking, but otherwise it hangs up on a set of long horns in my gear room.

"Clap your hands.. stomp your feet, Eagle patrol cant be beat" "Rattle Snakes Rattle Snakes we are the best, Rattle Snakes, Rattle Snakes better than all the rest!" those are the two i remember we also have a troop yell "North, South, East, or, West 85 is the best!"

Thank you for the welcome, and i do see the point you are attempting to make. However, I have been in scouting since Tiger cubs. I, myself,have sang for my items more then once. I am not emotionally scarred from doing it. I learned to not leave my stuff and be neat and tidy, at camp or at home. After breakfast every morning we "police the area" and the older scouts and adults patrol behind them, and the line backs up if we find something they miss, yes its embarrassing to the young scout who has to face his comrades, but i do not think hes going to be hurt for life because of it. also since you are making an example of my grammar (which sorry i do not use the best grammar on an online forum) the correct use of (Your vs You're) would be You're. I do recognize you were attempting to make a point however. Also, the Marine Corps yell and scream explicit language into young men's ears for 9 weeks and at the end you have some of the most respectful and well mannered men at the end of their time at basic training, so i do not believe that a little song is going to hurt my 11 year olds whom all know i am VERY strict when it comes to pranks and ill behavior, but still consider me their friend and respect me. I also pointed out if the child does not feel comfortable singing, i will sing with him or not make him do it if he really does not want to, its always in good fun. They even try to trip me up and make me sing, and even though they haven't yet, if they happened to, you can bet that i would get right up there and show you my handle and my spout.

Our campsite has a LOT of weeds, if we find something where it shouldnt be, you get a square of weeds to eradicate, or one of my favorites singing "im a little tea pot" complete with the little dance. today in the 100 degree heat our green bar got together and re organized our scout trailers and we noticed our big tandem axle needs a good waxing, so at camp, ive come up with a new way to get your stuff back. I dont find this to be hazing, its in good spirit, im the SPL, and ill sing with them or help a lot, and explain about doing it next time, normally they only lose one item.(This message has been edited by Jkaufman_95)

My Troop uses our "Class B" for weekly meetings, but our "green bar" wears them every meeting, if you show up without your class b on next week the whole troop wears "A"s, first and last day of camp is "A" any sort of traveling or weekend camping trips is a B, we have a set class b, but its common that guys will wear our philmont trail shirts or some other scout shirt, and that is acceptable to me. on the cost aspect, my SM has been known to "help out" some boys and their families, we all also donate our outgrown uniforms, ive got three pairs of pants (though outdated, still acceptable for uniform) to take with me tomorrow, and i have a scout in mind who doesnt have a pair to give them too.(This message has been edited by Jkaufman_95)