JerseyJohn

First, Doesn't matter Secondly, All of your suggestions had already been completed done prior to my first post. I would urge you to not read between the lines of short post's that condense months of activity. YIS, John

Thanks for all the replies. When I have a nice list I'll add them to this for other area troops. Regards, John

Hello, Our troop has 68 scouts with an even mix from age 11 to 17. We are located about 10 miles east of Philadelphia. I'm an ASM and the fundraising guy. In an effort to keep up the interest of the older scouts, I have put together a three ring binder of what I would call "Weekend High Adventure" programs. These range from the two night Appalachina Trial in N. Jersey, Multiple district COPE programs, DelMarVa's 2 and 3 day canoe trips & bike trip and a few others. I am looking for other programs that you may consider a "high adventure weekend outing" within a four hour drive of Philadelphia. This would include a circle from Southwest Connecticut to south western NY to central PA, to Hagerstown, MD to about an hours south of Washington DC. The boys have expressed an interests in caving, rock climbing and other, oh how shall I say it - managed risk outings. I'm more than happy to share what I have with anyone interested. Thanks John

Greetings from south Jersey. We have a few boys who want to do a patrol trip to Washington DC to attend a MLS soccer game in Sep / Oct 2006 Aside from Rodney and Henson, can someone recommend a camp near Washington DC? Thank You John

The boys do all the cooking and each patrol invites a field leader or two to eat with them. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us - burnt, raw, half cooked, too little, too much, no matter what - no exceptions. John

The oobject lessonis to learn the scientific method.....SO Have them apply the scientific method to the following scenario They flip a light switch in the room and the light ddoesn't go on? Using the scientific method, determine why it is not working.... 1. Is the electricity on in the house? 2. IS the lamp on? 3. Is the bulb blown 4. etc,etc,etc Or make it a toaster, video game, or other

I'm the fundraising guy in our troop and here is what we have done in the past. 1 - Hoagie sales, we buy them for 1.00, work the corner on a Saturday morning starting at 10 o'clock. We sell 600 hoagies within two and a half hours every time. Profit per hoagie is $2.00, total profit 1,200.00 2. Last year for the first time we had a booth at a carnival. I cut a deal with the local Pizza Hut for large cheese or cheese and pepperoni pizza's. Pizza HUt let's us use a big insulated bag that holds about 10 pizzas at a time. We reorder as needed through out the day. We bought soda on sale, i think it was 4 cases for 10.00 and worked froom 11am to 10pm. We made 1000.00 This year we are doing three carnival booths, pizza and soda again in one booth, and games in the other booths. Expected revenue is about 3000.00 3. In seven weeks we are holding our first annual golf tournament. We expect to make 2000 to 4000 on the tournament. 4. We have the boys run and work a local pack's pinewood derby snack stand so the leaders there don't have to bother with it. The boys make about 150.00 5. We sold the first aid kits, bought for 4.00 solf for 8.00 - They were good. One for each car for each prospective customer and it's almost a guranteed two'fer sale. 6. Doing a car wash in the near future for the first time. Probably for $5.00 a car or maybe bake in a "lunch program", something like car wash for 5.00 or car wash, hoagie, bag of chips, soda for 10.00 - it will give customers something to do while their car get's washed. We'll see how that goes - still kicking it around. OTHER If you live near a Domino's pizza or Pizza hut pizza, look into their promorional cards. You buy them for about 4.00 and it entitles the buyer to get up to 10 free mediums everytime they order from there. I forget the web site at this moment. I'll try to remember it and edit my post. Our local grocery stores allow us to buy prepaid cards in amounts of 50, 100, 200 dollars, whatever. The families buy them and we get a 3 to 5% kick back. The families are shopping there anyway so the troop earns a few bucks here and there. Collect the money from parents, order the cards and deliver them - no out of pocket expenses and no risk. Thats all the time I have. Any questions, let me know and I'll be happy to help you out. YIS John From A pack with 102 scouts A troop with 73 scouts

I'm the fundraising guy in our troop and here is what we have done in the past. 1 - Hoagie sales, we buy them for 1.00, work the corner on a Saturday morning starting at 10 o'clock. We sell 600 hoagies within two and a half hours every time. Profit per hoagie is $2.00, total profit 1,200.00 2. Last year for the first time we had a booth at a carnival. I cut a deal with the local Pizza Hut for large cheese or cheese and pepperoni pizza's. Pizza HUt let's us use a big insulated bag that holds about 10 pizzas at a time. We reorder as needed through out the day. We bought soda on sale, i think it was 4 cases for 10.00 and worked froom 11am to 10pm. We made 1000.00 This year we are doing three carnival booths, pizza and soda again in one booth, and games in the other booths. Expected revenue is about 3000.00 3. In seven weeks we are holding our first annual golf tournament. We expect to make 2000 to 4000 on the tournament. 4. We have the boys run and work a local pack's pinewood derby snack stand so the leaders there don't have to bother with it. The boys make about 150.00 5. We sold the first aid kits, bought for 4.00 solf for 8.00 - They were good. One for each car for each prospective customer and it's almost a guranteed two'fer sale. 6. Doing a car wash in the near future for the first time. Probably for $5.00 a car or maybe bake in a "lunch program", something like car wash for 5.00 or car wash, hoagie, bag of chips, soda for 10.00 - it will give customers something to do while their car get's washed. We'll see how that goes - still kicking it around. OTHER If you live near a Domino's pizza or Pizza hut pizza, look into their promorional cards. You buy them for about 4.00 and it entitles the buyer to get up to 10 free mediums everytime they order from there. I forget the web site at this moment. I'll try to remember it and edit my post. Our local grocery stores allow us to buy prepaid cards in amounts of 50, 100, 200 dollars, whatever. The families buy them and we get a 3 to 5% kick back. The families are shopping there anyway so the troop earns a few bucks here and there. Collect the money from parents, order the cards and deliver them - no out of pocket expenses and no risk. Thats all the time I have. Any questions, let me know and I'll be happy to help you out. YIS John From A pack with 102 scouts A troop with 73 scouts

Thanks Scoutiing Again, I was able to find the manufacturer and they do indeed have a corporate donation request form. Thanks Folks YIS, John

Eagle76, Appreciate the thought although I have been down that trail already. Our local police department leases them and we are therefore not allowed to use them despite the numerous Eagle project we have completed on their behalf - including a two story spotting building at the pistol and rifle range. YIS, John

Jan, We do two big troop fund raisers per year - A golf tournament (May) and carnival booths (June) These are 100% troop profit fundraisers. Let' say we make $8000.00 on these two events. We take nine trips per scouts year. We would then dedicate about 600.00 to each trip to offset costs and the balance would go to assets, etc. We do a few hoagie sales as well. These are 100% scout account profit and they go like this. If we make a total of 600.00 in two hours and five scouts showed up then it is a total of ten hours work. So 600 / 10 = 60.00 an hour x two hours for each scout so 120.00 goes into each scouts account. If we make 600 and four scouts show up for two hours and two show up for one hour each it is still a total of ten hours work but split up by the hours. 600 / 10 = 60.00 an hour four scouts x two hours = 120.00 one scout - one hour - 60.00 one scout - one hour - 60.00 Hope it helps. John PS....What is this big fundraiser that you are speaking of? Yes, I am the head of fundraising and always looking for more ideas.

Greetings, I'm the fundraising guy in our troop. Every year we participate in the township carnival and raise troop funds. This year I want to add a baseball speed radar game. I am looking to see if any of the members here may have a connection to a sporting goods store for the purchase of a good quality sports radar gun at a fair price. YIS, J Ersing Troop 184

From our homepage click newsletters. They are in PDF http://www.pack184.com/ John

Alisha, Officially - I do not know Unofficially - They put the patch on their vest and some wear the medal on their right pocket flap with other medals and the Webelos put the Heritage Pin on their colors. John

US Heritage Award, patch and medal. Last year I did it with my 8 Bears and 6 Wolfs. I made it optiojnal for the partticipation since it was 8 or 10 dollars each. Everyone participated though. Gave out at the pack meeting, it was a hit. http://www.nationstrails.com/awards/index.html John

FWIW - Here is my list of details for our pack family campout this April. Friday / Event 6 to 730 check in 730 to 9 event and snack 9 to 10:30 Campfire Saturday 8 to 9 breakfast 9 to 930 clean up / Webelos 930 to 11 Check In 9:30 to 11:30 Rank Events - belt loops / activities by rank Tigers Wolves Bears Webelos 11:30 to noon Free time Noon Opening flag ceremony 12:10 to 1 Lunch 1:00 to 1:30 Clean Up / Wolves 1:30 to 4:00 Pack Events - The Amazing Race - 4 teams Using primarily landmarks and a few compass directions Four different courses 4:00 to 5:00 Tug of War Rope line - Knots Free unstructured time 4:30 to 5:00 Ready for dinner Ready the campfire 5:00 to 6:30 Dinner Clean up / Bears and Tigers 6:30 to 8:00 Pack meeting 8:00 to 9:30 Family Event / Snack 10:00 Lights out and a Head count Sunday 8 to 9 Breakfast 9 to 9:30 Clean up / everyone 9:30 to 11 Depart

FWIW - Here is my list of details for our pack family campout this April. Friday / Event 6 to 730 check in 730 to 9 event and snack 9 to 10:30 Campfire Saturday 8 to 9 breakfast 9 to 930 clean up / Webelos 930 to 11 Check In 9:30 to 11:30 Rank Events - belt loops / activities by rank Tigers Wolves Bears Webelos 11:30 to noon Free time Noon Opening flag ceremony 12:10 to 1 Lunch 1:00 to 1:30 Clean Up / Wolves 1:30 to 4:00 Pack Events - The Amazing Race - 4 teams Using primarily landmarks and a few compass directions Four different courses 4:00 to 5:00 Tug of War Rope line - Knots Free unstructured time 4:30 to 5:00 Ready for dinner Ready the campfire 5:00 to 6:30 Dinner Clean up / Bears and Tigers 6:30 to 8:00 Pack meeting 8:00 to 9:30 Family Event / Snack 10:00 Lights out and a Head count Sunday 8 to 9 Breakfast 9 to 9:30 Clean up / everyone 9:30 to 11 Depart

I am in a similar situation only with Webelo 1's. I had 13 Tigers in 2001-2002 and excellent parents who did whatever I asked. We had to break them into to Wolf dens due to the numbers. The other leader is somehwat less enthusiastic as I am. Thru Wolf, Bear and now Webelo 1 I have invited the other den to everything I am doing except for den meetings. All correspondence I send to my parents, I sent to the otehr dens parents. I have a group email list for my den and the other den. When I am having an event, trip or whatever, I simply add the other den and extend an invite for them to participate if they would like. Sometimes one boy comes, sometimes all of them come. When you do a discover trip or whatever, invite the others. Be sure to have the "ok" from the other den leader. Consider yourself that dens ADL. Since the parents must attend with the Tigers, there is no extra burden on you. BTW, of the 13 Tigers that I had in 2001-2002, all are still with me except two who moved. John

Hi Folks, I appreciate all the information. Bottom line seems to be that the boys must provide a service or sell a product in order to raise troop funds. Furthermore, this activity must be pre-approved and in accordance with established guidelines. I did (join, volunteer, get drafted) to the fund raising comittee and I am trying to learn the rules and reg's so I can stay within them. I'm simply trying to think past candy bar sales, hoagie sales, candles, chips and the like while following the guidelines. Between soccer, baseball, cub's, boy scouts, hockey, PTA, basketball, I simply feel the need need to find something different. My search continues. Thanks for the info John

New to Boy Scout rules and reg's but I have been in Cub scouts a loooooooong time. I am getting involved in the fundraising end particularly to offset costs for 2005 jambo. I am trying to understand the fit between corporate sponsorships and troops. I have no trouble approaching local companies on behalf of the troop however, how does that mix with Scouting. They can simply donate money but they are supposed to receive something of fair value in return. I could take a scout with me and offer troop services, but what? I'm thinking it would be legitimate if the troop sought out local companies and offered grounds cleanup twice, three times a year, or parking lot sweeping, assembling an ad book for distribution at local high school athletic events and other school functions. What services do you offer a corporate sponsor and at what dollar value? The standard run of the mill fundraising promotions are getting stale and while generating revenue, it is a little at a time. I am thinking that obtaining multiple corporate sponsors would allow the boys to earn money the hard way, rather than sell Aunt Sue or Uncle Bill another 10 (fill in your product here) Thanks John