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One doesn't need the boy-led program making Thrifty decisions for the troop. My troop pretty much has no treasury or even a treasurer for that matter. The boys plan activities, made the program decisions and figure out the cost to go. If the cost is prohibitive they go back to square one and start over. If the parents feel the costs are too high, THEY can fund raise on their own. After all it is their finances which are affected. They can ask the boys to help out and they usually do. They have worked hard to keep the cost of summer camp down, but they had to borrow money from one of the parents to keep the cost of summer camp to $50 per scout. The rest was on loan that they are paying back from last summer with this year's popcorn sales. They have no money for camp assistance this year and may end up paying full price for camp unless 1) someone again floats them a loan or they pay full price. It costs the troop and/or patrol absolutely nothing to have all the boys bring a sack lunch and meet at the trail head for an afternoon of hiking. Who picks up the cost of the rides? the parents the sack lunch? the parents, so why not pick up the tab on summer camp? If we don't have the money, we don't do the activity. So what's the alternative? A canoe trip, bike hike, backpacking, or other activities that cost far less than summer camp and especially far less than Northern Tier, Sea Base and Philmont. Teaching boys to spend money they don't have pretty much runs counter to "A Scout is Thrifty". Last time I checked 9 days in BWCA cost less than 5 days at summer camp. And by the way "A Scout is Thrifty" could also include the idea that the boy earns his own money to pay for his scout activities and equipment. My parents paid for annual registration, I paid for everything else with money I earned on Saturdays and days that it snowed.

Am I missing something here? The boys were the ones looking forward to having the adults make the flags? If that be the case, by the time they get to Boy Scouts, will the adults still be doing it for them? I find it difficult to believe that the boys are doing the flag making with the examples being put on the forum. Personally, I like the ones that are either the pendant flags with the patrol emblem on it or something entirely hand-made by the boys themselves. Tiger Cubs can't make their own flag? Cut a 2' square of paint cloth fabric. Have the boys lay their hands in latex paint and put a hand print on the flag. When it dries, get a Sharpie and have them sign their names. If they take on a new boy, just have him put his hand print on it and sign it. Life's too short to worry about a flag "somebody else made". It may last only 1 year, but, it's a flag every boy has a piece of ownership in.

It's part of his STEM project.

No dues, pay as you go is what we do in my troop. If the boys want mac and cheese instead of steak, the price for the outing will be less. Fund raisers cover the cost of everything else. The boys raise money for the patrol, that money can defray the cost of other things needed in the patrol, like stoves, tents, etc. Otherwise they go without if they have spent all their fund raising money. They have a patrol account they maintain. They know how much money they have to spend and they spend it according to their own directives.

I like the heritage uniform, I've already paid for it and don't need to go out and buy any more....and I don't smoke so I don't need the extra pocket.

This isn't going to be a work of art, let the boys do the flag, forget the streamers.

@@Daurade, welcome to the forum, thanks for the input.

Google Translator.... it isn't perfect, but I figured it was a start. It gives the general idea of what is being attempted in the comments. I have Google Translator and I slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Figured that was good enough.

There are a lot of troops and SM's out there that think that too.

No picture, but it sounds like fun. Kids going to remember this for a long time.

Quick Easy Ways To memorize the Scout Morse Code Posted by Joshua Riyandi on Monday, June 13, 2016 Label: Scouting Hi .. Meet again ya .. this time I want to post about the hobby I, Scouts .. discussion this time I want to talk about Fast Easy Ways Memorizing Scout Morse Code probably many of you who think that the name memorize Morse code was hard, but all i say is just a myth: v because, because, Because there is a trick to make it easier to memorize the Morse code .. before entering into discussion, i want to share a little bit about the history of brevity. Morse code was invented by Samuel Finley Breese Morse (1791-1872). He is an inventor who came from the United States. He is also a painter, but more famous as the inventor of the electric telegraph. the electric telegraph used a special alphabet which he created with his assistant named Alexander Bain. The alphabet known as 'Morse Code'. The code consists of lines and dots. Well, this morse code itself is applied also in scout password. According to memorize the Morse I still have fun, especially klo you already know Quick Easy Ways Memorizing Scout Morse Code. This method also gw Terapin to Adek-Adek gw learners in core scout troops, and thank goodness they got 1st place yesterday while I was attending the Jamboree Branch (ciee) first greet her brother: p morsenya memorize the following trick: A: ANO B: Bonaparte C: TRY TRY D: DOMINANT E: EGG F: FATHER JOHAN G: GROUP H: HIMALAYA I: ISLAM A: JAGOLORO K: COMMAND L: LEMONADE M: MOTOR N: NOTES O: Otomo Q: HELP Q: QOMOKARO R: RASOHE S: SAHARA Q: TONG U: UNESCO V: VERSIKARO W: Winoto X: XOXENDERO Y: YOSIMOTO Z: Zoroaster nah's how to translate it into Morse, 1. Focus on vowels (A, I, U, E, O), the consonant letters are ignored (pain does actually ignored: ') 2. for the letter O bearing the "-" and a vowel other than O (A, I, U, E) bearing the dot "." you're done, you dig kaga -_- '? i love ya for example, such as the letter A = ANO ANO has two vowels, A and O so morse code from the letter A is the point of the line ". -" how? already there is some light not men? ya i love the example 1 again. letter B = Bonaparte Bonaparte had four vowels, namely O, A, A, and E so the Morse code letter B is a line of dots dots "-..." for any other letter terjemahin itself well .. -_- learned gentlemen 'do not be spoiled if there who want ditanyain, comment aja ok. nah it is fleeting Fast Easy Ways Memorizing Scout Morse code, may be useful yah ^^ next post waiting for ya, stay tune ^^ Scout craft: Lampion Tunas Kelapa Posted by Joshua Riyandi on Friday, January 1, 2016 Label: Crafts Hi guys, I'm sorry already long post ga ya, this time I want to post about crafts made by joshua hehe. then gw class X and dapet task of the art teacher ngebuat lanterns from the balloon. gw confused to make lanterns with any decoration, Seeing my friends gw lampionnya on that good anymore - '. So, i nemuin ideas for lanterns form coconut seeds due to negligence. gw time lanterns create a rounded shape, gantungin gw dah in the room while the fan fanned let dry. keeps fit already dry, clay gw gw round lanterns instead be like coconut (ga irregular shape: 3). directly deh kepikiran create coconut buds form. Gw aja directly nyari materials for the lanterns ngelengkapin gw. Curious material from what? check this out !! Tools and materials : 1. The rubber balloon (not a blimp: 3, ntar greatness -_-). 2. Yarn Sewing (brown). 3. Wood Glue (glue Fox / other brands). 4. Pipe (adjustable length). 5. Felt (brown). 6. Needle Sewing. 7. Small Hose. (Adjustable length). 8. Glue Shoot. 9. Sand taste. 10. Fire (can stove, candles, etc.). 11. Tools to perforate (screwdriver, nails, etc.). 12. Cat (brown). 13. Dacron (contents Cotton) 14. Scissors. 15. The series of lights. How to make : 1. Blow balloons (not too big, not too small). Tie the ends. 2. Apply wood glue around the balloon evenly. 3. Wrap the sewing thread around the balloon that has been spread wood glue this until all surfaces are sealed balloon. (Not wrapped too tight because it will make the lanterns be nice). 4. Wind-aired these lanterns to dry. 5. Once dry, kempeskan balloon. Be lanterns spherical. 6. start from here, i use own creations. Fill the pipe with sand that has been prepared to the full. 7. Burn the pipe in the middle of a rather down. then bend a little in order to become a stem palm shoots. When finished, remove the contents of sand are there in the pipeline. 8. Then coat the pipe with brown flannel. 9. Cut a hole the diameter of the hose at the bend pipe, then insert the hose into the pipe hole, bend it downward. Do not forget hoses painted a chocolate brown color. 10. Make a leaf pattern on the palm shoots as much as 2 pieces of flannel, then stitch around. Leave the lower end of the leaf to enter Dacron. 11. Enter dakron into flannel cloth has been sewn. 12. Give the glue on the tip of lower leaves, then insert the tip of the leaf into the bottom of the pipe. 13. Punch holes in the side of the lantern to the entry of the pipeline (so the lantern has two holes, bottom and sides). 14. Insert the pipe into the hole located on the side, press slightly upward so that the stem buds become erect, then glue around that shoots not wobble. (Part of the balloon will be dented a little, but that's okay) 15. Put a balloon on the lights that have been strung together. Ready lighted lanterns. Excuse My Face ^ _ ^

100" zippers are available at your local fabric store for about $15. It don't need to look purdy, just be functional, do it yourself. By the way, that same $15 zipper sewn to a blanket makes a fantastic bag liner. One light weight flannel for summer and a heavy wool for winter. Major difference in bag warmth for a fraction of buying 2-3 different bags.

Sometimes no pattern is the tradition. There is just as much draw to do the same thing all the time as there is for others to NOT do the same thing all the time. Some boys get bored if they go to the same camp every year and for others, twice in a row at the same camp is too much. Some people grow up to be homebodies, others are travel junkies. Each has a pattern and the pattern can't be interrupted. It is just as disruptive to have a homebody go on an extended trip and the travel junkie have to stay home for 2 months. The course of action necessary??? Do not deviate from the pattern!

My guess: "I Triple Dog Dare you!"

I believe that our youth tend to not want to make decisions for fear of making the wrong choice which to them translates into losing.. Sure, everyone gets a participation trophy, but when the real nuts and bolts, no BS reality sets in and they have to make a choice, it's panic time! Losing means failure, winning means success and everything around us in our culture dictates winners are the heroes. They have their lives carefully mapped out for success. Every T is crossed and ever I is dotted. Nothing left to chance, until life happens and then there's the melt down and the loser label is a forever black mark on one's life. @@blw2, I don't think its a fear of failure, as much as it is a fear of "losing". Kids today know the BS of the the participation trophies and the ego stroking going on and because of the fog of the unknown that it creates. They have no idea what 20/20 foresight mean and what that may mean in terms of being successful. Thus they creep slowly into the future thinking that at any moment, they could lose the game and there are no resets in the game of real life. Every decision is based on traditional odds that if this was successful in the past, somehow it's guaranteed to be successful once again. Somehow this gets translated into "If I don't make a decision, I don't get blamed if things aren't successful." What they haven't figured out that not making a decision in and of itself is a decision and this Catch-22 trap often mandates going only with the tried and true proven winners rather than think outside the box, problem solve, take a stand, etc. necessary in life at times. They "go with the crowd" rather than stand out and lead because if I lose, then all my friends will lose too. That really ups the ante. So the solution? Let someone else make the decision, take the chances, and if they win, I can get in on the benefits and if they lose, I can walk away unscathed. Either way it's a "win" and no decision/choice had to be made. After all mom and dad have taken care of me for 35 years and it's worked out well, I"m set for another 10 years easily.

Welcome!!

Of course one can make it even a bit simpler and have a cross-over be a cross over..... Forget the bridge, just cross over from one side of the room to the other. Sometimes it doesn't pay to over think things.

In our culture of "fear of failure", it's not so much fear of change, but the fear of making wrong decisions. Tradition gets entrenched by not making decisions. We did it last year, it worked, so we're going to keep with it. That may sound like making a decision, but no decision is a decision. This isn't limited to just summer camps, it's a plague on the whole calendar of the troop. A troop that comes up with their annual planning calendar generally hasn't done anything except change the year at the top of the page and everyone goes home happy that they had a successful year last year and will be guaranteed a successful year this year. Of course, it leaves little if no room for adventure and eventually the failure will occur with the loss of the older scouts due to boredom.

Capsaicin is a highly destructive toxin that affects the entire digestive system and liver that needs to try and clear it from the body. One has to remember that any time someone yells out, "Hey, guys, watch this!!" it is important that you do, it might be the last thing the idiot will do in this life. Anytime the common consensus is "wear gloves, don't touch face or eyes and wash hand thoroughly after handling" might not be a good candidate to put in one's mouth. Yeah, I too, would stick with the popcorn sales.

I too have found the camps around here do very little to support the patrol method. Had one camp that told the boys they couldn't sign up as a patrol for a MB even when they got in early enough that there were enough slots of "first-come, first-served". They said it was unfair to other troops if only boys from one troop were to get a chance at the MB. The boys didn't do the MB and just did their own thing during that time which was fine with me.

I may poke a bit on this forum with my references to Parlor Scouts and Paper Eagles, but once one experiences the Real Deal, they understand totally.

I remember as a kid absolutely detested having to memorize the entire catechism. Yet today, bits and pieces, if not entire sections of it float back to me constantly to direct my actions. I have no idea the number of times the phrase: "help other people at all times." floats through my consciousness on a daily basis.

A young man was standing at a store front at the mall looking at the merchandise. Suddenly he pushed from behind and he hit his face against the window. He was IRATE, until he turned around and saw the culprit. It was an elderly man with a white cane that had stumbled. Anger dissipated in an instant. We choose how we react to situations right down to the most basic of feelings. I learned of that story as a young man, it has stuck with me my entire life. I choose not to let the actions of others dictate how I feel.

Yeah, I've been working with my troop now for 4 years and have struggled every inch of the way starting from scratch. Now that the results have been meager with fighting the interference of adults in a boy-led program, maybe it's time for me to move on, too. Unfortunately I can't do that having produced an excellent Eagle scout that decided to forego being an JASM and instead took on the role for 2 years as a TG for the NSP. Yes, adults can learn great things from their boys.

That works only if the boys actually know what each word means.