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I'll take a pass on the Finnish Field Cap, looks like the military field cap of the German forces during WW II.... Oh, wait, it is.

If that be the case, then we're going to have a "who blinks first" game gong on for a while. I would think that "Be Prepared" would apply to MB's, too.

Gee, that must mean that on hot days in the garden I'm full blown dork? Is that what is being implied?

No, but there's the dork factor that has to be considered with a BSA hat. I don't wear baseball style caps.....ever. So I'm not going to wear the baseball style BSA hat.....ever. I do wear the expedition hat and the campaign hat and the garrison cap when I wear my 1960's uniform. For some unknown reason I get a lot of compliments when I wear my expedition hat and when I wear a civilian expedition style hat. I guess the dork factor doesn't apply to that hat.

There is nothing worse than adults interfering in youth programs. It happens on the Cub level and it happens on the Boy Scout level and it happens on the Venturing level. I would have a den award, voted on by the boys in attendance on which car in the den was the "best". I'd want that award from my friends and peers over some politically motivated vote by a group of adults with an agenda.

"Age and treachery will win out over youth and exuberance any day!"

Ya know, these hats aren't meant for real bears, they just call them Smoky hats because of the National Forest Service, Jus' sayin' guys!

Yep!

Not the reporter's choice of words, the boy interviewed referred to them as oars. You are probably correct it is really a dumb thing to do to risk human life to saver the life of a dog. I would have still done it, but then I like dogs more than people at times......

If they keep doing this they're going to up the ante on their FOS presentations and double down on over priced popcorn just to break even.

Wow! my first whittling attempt was Cochise as well. I still have it and wear it occasionally!!!!

When I was a kid we collected neckers like boys collect patches today. Had one for the troop and one for just about every activity I was in, camporees, klondikes, summer camps, etc.Maybe I'll have my wife make them into a quilt some day. The last time there was a specialty necker was Philmont 2000, the time before that was 2 troop trip to BWCA. Both gave up their troop neckers to wear the expedition one. The "unitform" for the trip was a baseball cap, t-shirt and necker. Hat and t-shirt are long gone, the necker is still in the drawer. When I want to encourage a high adventure trip, I always wear it to the discussion. If I'm not invited to the discussion, I wear it anyway.

Used to be a scout didn't wear any First Class emblem/logos until they earned the rank. The Universal Hat Pin is only the TF emblem and the 1" FC pin is for youth (and historically only youth who had attained the FC Rank.) But like the uniform of today, no one really cares and they all do what they want anyway. If one looks closely at the POR patches they all have TF rather than FC emblems on them.

Until I saw that picture it never occurred to me that chef's wore neckers. I would recognize them by their white double breasted coats or a baker with a baker's hat on. And seriously, what chef in the hot kitchen would want to wear a necker????? sounds kinda like scouters not wearing neckers in the summer because they are too hot?????? what do they know that Scouts don't?

When scouting goes with a double breasted white uniform shirt, we could have problems.

When I was doing reenacting in a heavy wool uniform, dark blue in 100o+ weather, I still wore a necker. I used it as a hot pad for campfire cooking. When the barrel of the gun got to hot to hold the necker came off and wrapped around my hand. The kepi cap would allow the sun access to the back of the neck. Necker took care of that. Need a wash cloth? Necker, To this day I have 8 36" square reenacting neckers left over from reenacting in my bedroom drawer. When I go hunting, fishing, gardening, mowing the lawn, cutting trail in my backwoods, roasting marshmallows with my grandkids, there is a non-scouting necker always there ready to use if not around my neck in my left hip pocket. It was something I learned as a camping kid and never got out of the habit.

Just because a boy wears a Cubs cap or a Twins cap or a Brewers cap, doesn't make him a baseball player. Even if the boy doesn't have a $75 full uniform, all he need do is put on a necker and people will think he's a scout. The branding is that strong.

Not a problem, keep us posted, and if you need more help, we're here.

Have you read the book THE PETER PRINCIPLE? Go back over the chapter on "Creative Incompetence". It really does work.

I had one DE that came on board and viewed herself as God's gift to the Scouting program. I never said Aye, Yes or No to her, but worked really hard on my "THE LOOK". It must have worked because after she left she did come back and they had some gathering that she attended. I didn't need to use THE LOOK anymore and did my normal hang out, goof off and relax for the event mode. She told me she was totally blown away by my "change". She said that when she was DE she was terrified of me. I asked her if I had ever threatened her. She said no. How about say something inappropriate? No. What was it then. She said it was the way I just looked at her. Dang I got talent! It worked. She never considered asking me to do anything on the district level!

Wow! Your boy must have a council patch on his uniform. Do a google search on that council and get a phone number for the council office and start asking whoever answers the phone these questions. Explain what is happening giving them the unit number and have them provide you with the CC and CM contacts. If you don't have a DL doing anything and after 6 months there hasn't been any Pack meetings, then the problem goes a lot further than just the den. The council needs to know about this and have a Unit Commissioner come in and sort things out for the pack. That's what a UC is supposed to be doing.

@@Georgekap Welcome to the forum! Sorry George, but not enough information came through on your post. What three camps?

@@RachelMasen Welcome to the forum. Sounds like a real mess. I would start with the CubMaster and enlist some assistance with him on board. Right now it would seem to be nothing more than he said, she said and without some backup, it will only increase your frustration. I would seriously wonder if your son is going to be getting any assistance from this DL. Better to check everything twice! and then do it again. If your son is not getting Boy's Life, it may mean his registration might have "gotten lost" too. Check with the Council registrar right away. Then make sure your boy is up-to-date on his requirements for Webelos and Arrow of Light. I'm betting there is no record of that as well. Visit with the other parents of the boys still in the den and make sure they are all squared away as well. Then if everything is kosher, then the parents can step up and be ad hoc DL to make sure the boys get what they are working for. No boy should suffer due to the ineptitude of an adult. If he's not stepping up, then the parents have every right to do so en mass. Make sure you have the backing of the CubMaster if this is the route you wish to pursue.

I've been blackballed from 3 different districts. Love it! The only time I have been approached by council on anything was to start a new troop using the boy led, patrol method as a "pilot program". Took me 25+ years to get District Award of Merit because I never did anything for the district. Finally they gave me credit for being a UC and MB counselor. I just think it was because they didn't get any nominations that year.

I was in a gift shop in Banff AB and I saw a couple of kids wearing neckers, co-ed group, all different colored neckers. I simply asked, "Where are you Scouts from?" The conversation lasted quite a while. They were from Thunder Bay, just down the road a piece from my neck of the woods. Without the neckers I would never have started the conversation and without a uniform, it was just a speculative guess.