jaffolder
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I was the CM of the pack our troop is with while he was CC. I worked with him for about 3 years before he moved to the troop. We got along fine. When my son moved to the troop I went along with him. I did all of the online training that was required plus other training that wasn't. I took the Fast Start: Boy Scouting, Safe Swim Defense, Safety Afloat and Weather Hazards, as well as Youth Protection. I took everyone's advise and talked to the CC about my concerns and told him that I wouldn't be ASM after the recharter. I did tell him that I will still help with fundraising projects if they want me too. I am working 2 jobs, going to school and don't feel I have the time I can give to the troop to be fair to them. I can't go on camping trips without leaving a day early or coming on the day they come home since I work half of every weekend. I don't feel it's fair to the kids or fair to me that I can't give all of the attention they deserve.
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I don't think the kids know what he thinks of them. This last camp out was all second class and below, except for two older ones (Eagle and Life). The Life Scout was with me and complained about him the whole time. I have heard that a few of the older scouts don't really care for him, one of them is his youngest son. As far as the merit badge counselor it is the SM. Ok maybe I did mess that up and approach it wrong. I still think he needs to understand the kids and maybe figure out that not all of them respond to him as well when he talks to them like he does. I've been a supervisor and I've had to learn how to treat each person to get the most out of them. It is like working with kids to do that. I try to step back and let things happen because I remember what it was like for me to have my dad as the SM. I don't want my son to have the same feeling that I'm picking on him.
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He has been the SM for 3 years I think. 4 at the most. He has plenty of help in ASM's. One is the outdoor coordinator(outdoor plans, special activities, summer camp update), one is equipment coordinator (status of new and existing troop equipment and of troop needs, new procedures for safe use and storage of equipment), one is fundraising, one is advancement(troop advancement progress, boards of review, courts of honor) and one does service projects (special activities, district and council activities). The CC is very involved. I am also an ASM. With my job I can't always be at meetings or campouts. I am there when I can be, but with my schedule I can't commit to some things. The PLC plans every activity the troop does. They plan everything at their Aug meeting and have new leadership in Oct. They do this so the incoming leadership has a plan to go on and not having to come up with it the first month they take over. Each patrol has an ASM that works with them to make sure they have the things that they request if they can't get it themselves. The run-ins I've had with him about merit badges are he won't let me sign off on something my son does, which is understandable. But for his swimming merit badge he wasn't able to do a few of the requirements at summer camp so I had my dad record him on video on my phone so that he could see that he completed the requirement with no interference from me. I was off doing something else. When I tried to show it to him he started off with a counselor wasn't with him to see him do it so he won't look at it. I've asked him if they were going to do rank requirements on campouts and he told me they would be and when they came home they didn't work on any of them. I understand that my son has the responsibility to ask to do that. His attitude has been the same since I first met him in the Cub Scout Pack. He has always been blunt in the way he talks to people. I'm just not sure who to talk to that could set him down and let him know that his way of talking to people needs worked on.
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We have probably 1 ASM for every scout in the troop. It was just this camporee 2 leaders took some scouts hiking and it was left to him and I to take the others biking. Unfortunately it was the same weekend as the Cub Family Camp so the ASM that likes to bike was with his son at that camp.
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We have probably 1 ASM for every scout in the troop. It was just this camporee 2 leaders took some scouts hiking and it was left to him and I to take the others biking. Unfortunately it was the same weekend as the Cub Family Camp so the ASM that likes to bike was with his son at that camp.
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It's gotten to the point I've thought about pulling my son out of that troop and moving to another one. We have probably 5 within 5 miles of each other. The only reason I haven't yet is he is friends with a lot of the kids in the troop.
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How do you deal with a SM that says "now I remember why I hate riding with Scouts" before we even got on the bikes for a ride? The only thing the scouts were doing was making sure they had everything tight and filling water bottles. He also asked one scout "hey ______ is this your crap?" Why couldn't he just say is this your stuff? I've had a few run-ins with him about merit badge requirements and other issues. He thinks he is the king of the troop and everybody else has to bow to him.
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We had a Web II at Cub resident camp and had to have is mom come and pick him up after 2 days. On the first day he was told to guve us his knives because he was told earlier that he could not use them outside of the camp site and without adult supervision. He does have his Whittlin chip. On the first day we took 1 knife from him. On the second day we took 3 more and told him to give all of his knives to us. On the last day we took another from him, so in the 2 1/2 days he was at camp we took 5 from him. He was disrespectful to his den leader and she was ready to send him home after the first day. We (all leaders) decided to give him a second chance. When we took the 5th knife from him he was disrespectful again. His mom had to come and get him. She told us that he wanted to be at camp. We later found out that he told her he didn't want to be there and thought that acting up would get him sent home. He did apologize to his leader for his behavior. I'm just suprised that he showed up to camp with at least 5 knives.
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Today our pack went to the local National Cemetery and helped take the flags out. The 5th grade at the middle school places them prior to Memorial Day and this was the first year we helped to take them out. I think the boys that showed up had fun doing it and hopefully when they are older will better understand the sacrifices made by the veterans.
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Today our pack went to the local National Cemetery and helped take the flags out. The 5th grade at the middle school places them prior to Memorial Day and this was the first year we helped to take them out. I think the boys that showed up had fun doing it and hopefully when they are older will better understand the sacrifices made by the veterans.
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I was told at our Council Training that only 2 knots were allowed from Boy Scouts to be worn as an adult. AOL and Eagle. I have been wearing my Religious knot the whole time and nobody has said anything about that. I earned that as a youth and am wearing the color for the youth knot. I read that right off of the National website that goes over awards.
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I have approached our CC and DLs about a service project that can be done with the Troop. I'm thinking that we could approach the Veterans Affairs and put out US Flags at the graves of every Vet at our local National Cemetery for Memorial Day. I'm not sure that it has been done in the past, but I've worked right next to Arlington National Cemetery and I think that every Vet should be honored like they do in ANC. Has anybody else done something similar to this in the past?
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Thanaks for all the great ideas. We have a leader meeting tonight and I'll bring some of these to them for them to think about.
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I'm a new CM and am trying to find ideas for the boys to do over the summer. From what I understand, last year the had a pool party and went to a minor league baseball game. We're trying to find ideas to have 2 activities each month so if they miss one they can go to the other. Any ideas would help alot. Thanks
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As a youth either going to Philmont with my family or going to Jamboree. As an adult, my son giving me my Cubmaster patch at our last Pack Meeting.