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Thank you so much for your answer, My son would never expect to be rewarded for something he knew he did'n do, its not him, he helps everyone in his Troop and in his brothers troop without expecting anything in return. Would be against his nature to know that he didn't do the job and expect to be giving a "pass"

Thank you nolesrule

nolesrule; But really what does that mean?I am not good @ English or math

I found the 2/3 thingy "Attends at least 2/3 of each event type during his service period" What does this mean? My English is not that good http://www.prismatic.com/troop103/jl-jobs.htm#Troop%20Quartermaster

Just one more point. One thing that I am not is a hovering parent, and actually I think that's one of the strikes against my sons in that Troop. The kids of the parents that go on camp outs and are always at the meetings they are the ones that get all the breaks, and I did told my sons that in a way, they should have "preferential" treatment, but I CAN'T be that much involve. My husband does drive the Troop kids when needed or sits at meetings when asked, and he did go camping a couple of times maybe, he doesn't care much for scouting, but volunteers when asked as do I(except camping, I don't do that anymore) what we don't do, is "network" at meetings,because really if we aren't needed,we have a lot of other stuff to do to fill our time. We do do a lot of cooking and cleaning at the other Troop because they have a lot of fundraising meals and our help is need. Answering to another comment. Yes, I am more "connected" with international events, my oldest son did go to the W.Jamboree in England, I do sponsor the JOTA/JOTI every year, and twice a year I do have an information booth at city events about BSA, and BSA international events but I don't see why that should constitute a problem. Scouting is not only international is GLOBAL and yes the next JOTA/JOTI will take place October 18/19, if you never participated in one I strongly recommend it

Thank you! jtswestark just gave me the answer that I was looking for, and I will let my son knows and leave him to make the decision. Before I leave this discussion,I want to thank everyone, that reply to my post , and reiterate that my son is the injured party here . I do have other sons and a daughter that I have to beg for then to get motivated,and involved, but not my youngest son, and it whatever breaks my heart to see him being disappointed time after time for no fault of his own.The world is cruel enough, he doesn't need scouting to add to it. As far as being too involved in my sons affairs, actually I am not,but I will from now on, because obviously from what I read here and on the net (I didn't find the 2/3 yet, but I will be back as soon as I find it)my son was never sure of what he needed to do, he did it,but maybe because since he's always helping other people, he probably helped the boy that had the job before him, but not, I don't think,because he was conscience that it was HIS job and HIS responsibility. Also, my son is 12, he's not in high school,and obviously, I must leave in a very tolerant part of the country THANK GOD! and yes he is too young, I know that he has a lot of time for advancement,and I would prefer that he takes his time, but he works hard and unless there's a very good reason,to the contrary, he should be rewarded for it. There's a lot that I don't know about scouting in the USA,but I do know that the rules are the same in every country only the interpretations varies, that's why I am asking the question. Yes my son will be leaving that Troop, but I don't think he should leave without resolving the problem. If he was treated unfairly like he thinks and I think, I know that there's not much he can do, but I do think he should have a conversation with the SM, so he at least know's why my son he's leaving and hopefully he will not do the same thing with some other boy. I encouraged my son not to do or say anything when another boy got "a present' for being the first to reach first class, when actually my son had all the requirements for first class 1 month before that kid. I told him that what it counted was that he KNEW he was the first and he should be happy for his scout friend. Now, there's no special prize to reach Star, but if he earned it, then he should get it. I go back to the same question. Why did the Ass.SM told him to go to the meeting ready for a scouts conference, and this after she went through his records with a fine tooth comb? and them he is told that he didn't do the POR so he had to wait another 3 months. He was ready to advance to Star 4 days before and suddenly 4 days after he wasn't????? I am sorry for the long rant. I am very emotional right now, because more than ever I do think that my kids, specially my youngest he's being unfairly treated for no fault of his own, and that.....

Gold Winger; At first I thought you "knew me", but obviously you don't, because if you did you would know that my son puts scouts above everything.Yes, he missed meets because he had scouts activities, and yes he missed some other academic practices because of scouts. He was never penalized for it, he knows the rules, he knows how many practices he can miss before he he ts in trouble or before it affects his performance or the groups. My kid he's the first to sign up for any scouts activities,he even does the other troops service projects with his brothers, he's not overextended. He's just a very active boy. So, sorry to disappoint you. Thank you for your feedback

"I can understand the frustration of at the end of the term the Scout suddenly hears he wasnt doing the job. When nobody made any corrective actions along the way the Scout assumes no news is good news and anticipates a signature at the end of his expected term. That isnt correct either. Sounds to me that there needs to be some better communication on both sides to keep expectations clear. I dont recognize the 2/3 is reference, it doesnt ring any bells. Good luck! JTS " Thank you jtswestark you got my point. I have been communication daily through e-mails to make sure that all the requirements were being meet, I was at the meeting and talked with the assisting,( the S.M. was busy ) I did ask if it was personal (stupid question I know), and I was calm, it only actually "hit me" when I got home, and I saw my boys ........ I am not overlooking the big lesson, I am actually trying to teach my boys. My son will eventually leave that Troop, but I don't want him to quit, or be pushed out,I want him to leave because the Troop where his brothers are his closer to our house, and because he wants too, not because he feels he has too......

Yes, "he did the job when he was able too" and my husband cuts our lawn. I am not sure where I read the 2/3, but I will post a link when I find it. Also. I know that in a perfect world my kid would attend every scout activity, unfortunately, he has cross country, math counts, spelling B, academic bowls, and after that he also has a family life, so he missed 1 camp out, and the other one that was rescheduled, he had a college visit for that day, the point is that HE DID HIS JOB. If my son actually didn't deserve to be credit for the quartermaster job, why did they schedule a Scoutmaster conference and when he showed up for it, they told him no, he was not going to have a conference. I am from another country where scouting is co-ed, and I know, I was a scout, c.....happens, but this is really stinking, and I want to know why is it smelling so bad.

It is kind of a BIG deal when its not fair. My sons, specially this one has being fighting for every single "thing", first was the M.B. records that were misplaced, then he didn't had a POR (was not in the books), then the service hrs......so its not the point of waiting 3 months, or 1 year,btw, he only has to be 4 months in the POR, the point is that its not fair. the kid did the job when he was able to. he wants to change Troops, but, I realy don't want him too,and that, YES, its me. I have been reading about POR, and it says that a scout should at least do 2/3...... is that right, and what does that mean anyway? Thnak you

I guuess you would understand if you knew the "history". but my son he's ready to fight, he just doesn't know how, right now the only options he sees his to move to another Troop like his 2 brothers did. whatever, I would like to know if the SM is right in refusing the advance. Thank you

My son is a quatermaster, but he only did his job at the sumer camp, he had 2 more camp outs after that where he could've done his job, but one of them he could't make it and the next one was post poned to a latter date when he already had other stuf to do. Now he can advance,to star because he wasn't active has a quatermaster????! I was told that he will need 3 more months has a quatermaster, but I don't know what to believe since I was also told last week that he only needed 1 more week to fufill his requirement Is that right?or can I fight the decition Thank you soooo much!