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Every training I attended YP was in it somewhere in the middle, couldn't come late or leave early. They had it set up so to step out for a cup of coffee, might be late getting back, or miss the next class. (not running on tight schedule) So rather than miss, I sat through YP each time. I must say, though, the last time, I did pick up more than the first time. The discussion on the last group I was with was a lot better. We had sherrif, local cops (a larger city), and several teachers, and some "old" Scouters. Of these most had been through an incidence either in Scouts, School, or enforcement. So even though I wanted to skip, I was better i didn't. Oh, I copied the "outdoor Leader Essentials" from the sign up sheet the council faxed me. So, will call them today and ask if it is Oudoor Leader Essentials or Intro to Outdoor Skills. Great forum, good to get straight answers. THANKS

WOw FAST responses. As a new SM, having completed what I listed above, next step? I am to go to Outdoor Leader Essentials next month (barring emergencies). What is the differnce between: BALOO - Cub Scouts Outdoor Leader Essentials - BOy Scouts Intro to Outdoor Skills - BOy Scouts ? If a council did an outdoor training at a BOY SCOUT camp out but called it BALOO one time and Outdoor Skills I & II the next, which would be more likely to be right? What is Okpik? What I am taking away from this forum is that with the essential three (fast start, leader specific, and intro to outdoor) I am trained? THe others are icing on the cake to do other "stuff"? THanks again.

Is there a comprehensive list of "all" SM training? Everytime I ask my council and asociates, they don't know. So, I can come up with: Youth Protection * MUST - have had 3 times in 6 months Fast Start * Must - have had New LEader Essentials * Must - have had SM and ASM Specific * Must - have had Intro to Outdoor skills I, II * is this a must? or the next outdoor class? BALOO? - have had Climb on Safely * oppional? have had Safe Swim Defense * Oppional? have had Trek Safely * Oppional? Have had Safety Afloat * oppional ? HAve had Wood Badge * oppional, but have heard that if done right is a LOT of fun I know there is more. And of these which are "essential", "manditory", "recommended", "extras", and "Just Fun to Have". EG: Which ones MUST I have , which ones would help, and which ones could I skip due to ($, time, -lack of, ect) Thanks Suz new SM