GernBlansten

I read a story the the Minneapolis airport is spending millions remodeling their male bathroom stalls to avoid a repeat of the Idaho senator caper.

Take out the hateful vitriol of the WBC slogans and focus on their core message. They are claiming that the wrath of God will be brought upon the people who tolerate sin. Even the innocent are not safe. They point to disasters as evidence of such wrath. This is no different than what Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, Hagee and most fire and brimstone preachers claim from their pulpits. The later just use kinder, gentler words. The message is the same to me. Now if they are right, I'd be moving well away from the west side of the San Andreas fault, PDQ.

Yeah, Trev, Seems most of the outrage is over the venues and tactics, but not the message.

dotnet.troopmaster.com resolves to the following addresses: 68.142.234.88 68.142.234.46 68.142.234.44 68.142.234.45 68.142.234.78 68.142.234.47 Chances are, your CO is blocking port 21 (FTP) for all addresses and needs to explicitly configure IPs to allow port 21. I'd give them that list.

Their FAQ on connection problems states the server name is dotnet2.scoutwebservices.com which maps to IP address: 74.200.69.237 http://www.scoutwebservices.com/faq/showquestion.asp?faq=9&fldAuto=150(This message has been edited by gernblansten)

Never seen the show, but was this gentleman representing the BSA in any official role? Or did he wear it simply for vanity?

Rural Texas? Heck, don't y'all just take a bucket an scoop up some Texas Tea out of the ditch when ya need some? Yeah, the crunch is hurting everywhere. Just pushed over $4 here in the rockies. Used to have lots of parents willing to drive the scouts to camp, now we are pleading for drivers. Even offering to top off the tank. Still got the same number of scouts, just not so many seat belts. I'm not even going to camp this summer, but am dusting off the old Dodge Hemi to help get em there. Then head back out in a week to pick em back up. But she'll seat 6 and pull the troop trailer, so I should have a first born or two I can put to work in the salt mines for the summer.

When I'm just taking scouts, I ask for an arm. If I'm hauling gear too, then its an arm and a leg. If I'm pulling the troop trailer, its an arm, a leg and the first born.

I must correct my previous post. Its not a 1040 employer, but a W2. They type most employee/employer relationships are and one that the employer withholds income taxes.

Our moral compass is reading a little truer today. Habeas corpus was restored.

Identity theft is really two pronged. One is taking out credit and buying stuff using your identity. This is bad. Really bad. All I need is a little bit of your information (SSN is key) and BAM, I can get credit with your name, buy stuff and never pay it back. You are stuck with sorting things out later, probably long after I've moved on to another sucker. You are left with a bad credit rating, disputed debt, lots of headaches. This is what the LifeLock guys can protect you against. The second is using your identity to gain employment. That really isn't a problem for you except for when income taxes are levied and not withheld. Most 1040 employers withhold taxes so you are covered. But when a 1099 situation, (independent contractor), no withholding is done. Then suddenly, the IRS says you made $25,000 more than you claimed, and wants taxes for it. Since the perp didn't pay withholding, usually only with a 1099 type contract, you are stuck with the tax burden or proving you didn't earn it. Can't see how LifeLock can protect you against that.

Yes pack. Those using assumed SSNs for employment will enjoy paying the SSN taxes but never be able to recover them. If the assumed SSN is for the deceased, the US Goverment makes out well as those bennies will never be claimed. If someone is using yours, the amount they contribute will be added to your total contributions. Now just hope that they are also taking payroll deductions for income tax. If not, you may end up paying taxes on their earnings.

Good luck on collecting on the insurance policy. Looks like ad hype to me. Ever try to collect on a secondary extended warranty? I thought the LifeLock guy was a moron to broadcast his SSN, but I bet they weren't able to get credit on his ID. Is it really stealing it if you broadcast it on national TV? $99/year to do what you can do with 3 letters to the credit bureau seems steep. But if it gives you comfort and allows you to sleep at night, have at it.

You know you're getting old when you remember that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings.

I'm no expert on the services, but it seems to me that they provide the same freeze on the credit bureaus that Packsaddle references. Then they provide a $1Million insurance policy if it doesn't work. So really, you could do it yourself for free, or have them do it for a fee and get the insurance policy if its worth anything. Lifelock.com is the one that is being advertised nationally right now. I am not a client of any of these services, but might do what Pack referenced as I have all the credit I need and locking it up until I might need more seems prudent.

Acidtest, Do you subscribe to one of the services that claim to protect your ID? Seems that someone as vigilant about protecting your information would be a client of them and resolve all the issues you have.

When something that should be an absolute morality becomes a situational morality, that is the point where society loses its moral compass.

>>>I guess this is based on the presumption that we didnt use the present means of interrogation until now. I dont think that is the case.

I do agree that we have lost our moral compass. We torture our war prisoners and think nothing of it. Even our chief justice of the supreme court said torture was OK and didn't violate the constitution because we weren't punishing them, just extracting information. Now if we had convicted them of a crime and tortured them as punishment, well that's immoral and unconstitutional.

Dead cat bounce?

This story has been told before, nothing new.... A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who robbed him, stripped him of his clothes, and, wounding him, left him on the road half dead. By chance there came a priest that way, and, as a teacher of religion to men, he should have stopped to help the poor man. Instead of this, he pretended not to see, and passed by on the other side of the road. Then there came by a Levite, who also, as an official of the church, should have given help. But he merely came and looked on the injured man, and passed on the other side as the priest had done. Afterwards there came by a Samaritan, and, when he caught sight of the wounded Jew, he went over to him and was very sorry for him. Now the Jews hated the Samaritans, and were their enemies, so that it would not have been surprising if he, also, had done as the priest and the Levite did. But, no! Though it was his enemy, he could not pass him by and leave him on the road, perhaps to die. He examined his wounds and bound them up; doing all that he could to soothe them. Then he lifted him carefully on his own beast, and brought him to the nearest inn, and took care of him through the night. The next day, when the Samaritan departed, he paid the man who kept the inn, and said to him, "Take care of this poor man until he is well, and whatever it may cost for his lodging and food, that I will pay thee when I come again."

I wonder how current that list is. Nowak is listed as current. She was released from NASA after she tried to kidnap and kill her astronaut boyfriend's girlfriend.

Welcome danmc222, Great thread to have a first post in! I agree. In fact, I think you could probably replace the 12 law with Leave No Trace.

So it appears that the Executive board does have a strong impact on the council program delivery. Without direct youth (or young adult) involvement in implementing that program, it teeters near the edge of becoming irrelevant to the very demographic it is designed to serve.

Well if the executive council truly has nothing to do with program and only finances, then I would agree with Bob that this is no place for youth unless the youth is a trust fund baby. Where are the council policies and program elements managed? That's where I think youth involvement would be justified.