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The council number can also be found on your membership card. It's a 3 digit number in the lower left hand corner.

Terry...gotta tell ya... I'm an educated man but I have a hard time understanding just what good this particular sub-forum does. The Issues & Politics forum was set up so that controversial topics with only a loose connection to Scouting, or non-Scouting topics could have a home. We moderators occasionally move topics out of this forum as needed so that forum participants dont have to peruse it looking for Scouting topics centered on advancement, uniforms, fundraising, and other topics with Scouting as the central theme. On the other hand, topics that center on religion, gays, politics, and non-Scouting topics get moved out of other forums. Alternative points of views, even those presented in an emphatic manner are not discouraged in any forum. A minimum standard of decorum is expected in all forums and the Issues & Politics is not excepted. As the forum subtitle says, Those not interested can skip this forum instead of spending time reading unwanted messages to identify content.

The requirements for each rank are listed in the Cub Scout Leader Book.

Mike Walton has a nice website with a lot of good information and history. It also has a lot of personal opinion and policy interpretations which differ from the opinions of others (kinda like what we have on these forums). His opinion that the owner of the jac-shirt can decorate it in any manner he desires conflicts with the Insignia Guide which lists the specific patches that are permitted.

Bluntly, if the idea was thunk up by BSA and submitted as a good approach in the BSA provided book, it can't be nothin but no good. Homebrewed new-wheel inventions are far better. If you don't believe it, ask the inventor.

I agree there is a lot of hate against the other guys being thrown around. Its a manifestation of the I, Me, Mine culture. States dont need no damn Feds interfering in their affairs, Joe Citizen doesnt need no damn city or county telling him what he can or cannot do with his private property. Teachers dont need no damn administration peering into their classroom. Units dont need no damn council interfering with rules and procedures, Scoutmasters dont need no damn troop committee interfering, Scouts dont need no damn patrol leader telling them what to do and when to do it. Nobody seems to care about the common good. Nobody sees the value provided by the other guys. Its always the I, Me, Mine selfishness.

It's not a common patch so some shops may not stock it. You can buy everything from the National Distribution Center in North Carolina. Call them at (800)323-0732.

How much would revenue have increased if the salary had stayed the same, or had been cut? Hard to say. Another way to look at it is that revenue increased by $450,000 and salary increased 105,000, less than 1/4 as much as revenue. If the salary increase is being questioned as excessive, what revenue increase should be expected to justify the salary?

I've seen them in the Scout Shop. It's item # 00320. There's a picture in the Insignia Guide.

Youre seeking to limit the discussion to home-brew ideas only. Your disdain for BSA methods, disseminated through BSA publications is well known. The best and foremost source for how to run a BSA program is BSA publications. The practices put forth in the publications are the result of thousand of ideas, methods, and practices from Scouters all over the country over many years. Theyve been tested, revised, and tested again before being published. BSA methods are proven to work. There is a place for new approaches, surely. But the road to success in fulfilling the Mission is littered with new ideas that dont work. When asked, I always advise to go methods that are proven to work. And those methods are found in BSA publications.

How about sharing with the rest of us?

Its a problem involving the allocation of scarce resources. We all have money, more or less scarce depending on our individual situations. How we spend it is completely within our control. There are 101 ways to get a uniform. In the end, if the uniform is important to you, you will have one.

"...it's time to stop beating this dead horse..." Why is it every time one of us objects to being the butt of this "prank" practice, someone else pipes up to defend it and offer even more techniques? I find it rather sick.

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Who needs a silly "New Scout Patrol Method" made up by some silly goofs in Irving that don't know anything about anything? I'll state my case, of which I'm certain I've lived a life that's full I traveled each and every highway And more, much more than this, I did it my way.

Tell us about the conversation you had with the DE regarding your recruiting practices. You were told to stop recruiting? You were told to stop recruiting existing Cub Scouts? You were blamed for the demise of another pack? He gave you suggestions for recruiting boys not already members? What did he say exactly?

Sometimes rules are interpreted (bent?) to fit our actual practice, or to fit what we want to do. Sometimes they are ignored altogether. Powers that be can be as guilty as anyone. The rule Eammon quoted says commissioners may not be unit leaders, but goes on to suggest that simultaneously serving as a committee member is OK. Surely though it is clear a commissioner should not have any involvement in his assigned unit except for the role of friendly impartial commissioner. I wonder how impartial a commissioner can be if he also serves as a Scoutmaster for another troop? Would there not certainly be a tendency to advise the troop to follow the practice of his own troop, best practice or not? A truly impartial commissioner would advise practices found in the publications.

Yes. Doing it the right way is usually the hard way. So what is the right way to go?

That's the KORNiest, most CRASS skit I've ever heard. You really nailed it, with 9 INCH NAILS.

Thanks be to Goodness that OGE got hammered as the target of fun summer camp pranks. Else wise he would not have turned out to be the man of such fine character he is today. Maybe BSA needs to add a 9th method of Scouting: the Prank Method. Target the meek with pranks so as to toughen them up and build their character.

I don't get it either. Its not funny at all. Here let me fix it for you. In the final scene the 6th Scout runs out and vomits all over the rest of them. Now THATS entertainment. Har har har.

I own one of the Army hats ("hat, sun, woodland, camouflage pattern, type III"). I also have the BSA boonie hat. They are nearly identical right down to the stitching, differences being different vents, heavier material in the army version, and color. The BSA hat doesn't have that webbing stitched around the base that looks like its designed to carry spare ammo.

It's a sad state of affairs when Boy Scouts can't have fun unless they're hammering on their fellow Scouts.

The BSA boonie hat is here: http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?ctlg=05NDC&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=APPAREL&C3=AHATS&C4=&LV=3&item=500FBH It has a BSA logo on the front.

The Insignia Guide is more about insignia than uniform. The visored cap isn't mentioned because there is no insignia for the visored cap. The visored cap or campaign hat is optional; see page 12 of the Boy Scout Handbook where the uniform is described. Like the expedition hat, there is lots of non-uniform clothing available: knit cap, nylon jacket, wool shirt-jac, gloves, t-shirts, etc. Some have insignia options, which are discussed in the Insignia Guide.