We currently have about 18 Eureka Timberline 4XT's with the vestibule and we are not very happy with them. The tents are 1 to 3 years old. We camped on both of the last 2 weekends and it rained both times and most of the tents had problems with water penetrating up through the floors. All of the tents were on ground cloths and the edges tucked under but where ever water got between the tent and the ground cloth the water wicked through the tent. Last week end out of the 23 scouts we had to dry 18 sleeping bags Saturday. My tent is a Coleman and almost 20 years old and I did not have any issues with water seeping up. I had given my ground cloth to two of the scouts since we were 1 tarp short. I agree that the Timberline tents look great and they have easily replceable parts but I am at whits end on the floors. I have a couple of questions?
1 Are the Timberline Outfitter 4's any better?
2 Do you reccommend any other brand and model tent?
3 How about the Coleman Trailblazer Tent, it has a vestibule and at $65 we can buy 4+ for the cost of a Timberline Outfitter with vestibule???