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ASM1 said, "Talk to your COR. The CC needs to have the same training as this ASM has. No, exceptions, Bye Bye CC!" Although it is true that the CO can set standards for required training, neither the ASM nor the CC need to attend any training to register and do their job. ASA1 said, "This ASM has the Horsepower to fix this situation. The COR will have to releive the CC. Or, this ASM, with her taining can go to District or Council for a solution. But the solution will be Bye Bye CC." You don't seem to have been paying attention. If the COR doesn't do anything, the District and Council are powerless. Every CO is free to set whatever rules they want as long as those rules don't violate BSA policy. A CO may say, "no wimmen at all" or "wimmen can only be on the committee" or "only left handed wimmen may go camping." All BSA says is that women may register as leaders, that's it.
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The noble, the brave, and the sickening
Fat Old Guy replied to Achilleez's topic in Issues & Politics
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Oh, the backlash against competition. My kids can't play dodgeball at school because it makes some kids "feel bad." Then there are the games in which "no score is kept." Probably some of this is a response to the sports fanatics who scream, "Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser." Back in the day, we used to compete at everything. Who could run fastest, who could spit farthest, who could read more (yep), and whose mom made the best cookies. I was dead slow in a sprint but that never hurt my self-esteem. I did discover that I could run farther tham most of my friends so I'd challenge them to 3 laps around the block. This constant reward and no child should ever lose has even invaded Scouting. Back in the 60s, millions of kids were Cub Scouts and they were happy earning rank badges and arrow points. Now to keep kids "interested and engaged" we give out belt loops, beads, and pins galore. I don't remember where I read about it but not long ago, I read of a School system that was no longer allowed to publish the honor roll. Two reasons were stated. The first was that privacy was an issue, as if everyone doesn't already know who gets the good grades. The second was that some kids felt bad if they didn't make honor roll even though they tried hard.
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I think that the problem is that the Guide to Safe Scouting directs us to not have alcohol at Scouting events where youth are present. This is related to something that happened at our district dinner a few years back. It's an adults only dinner or supposed to be. For some reason there were two Cub Scout there in uniform. What to do? The bar remained open as it was a function for adults that wound up with some uninvited youth. By the book? Maybe not but the DE didn't make a fuss.
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" I'm not sure if the SM conference they have for AOL counts towards the Scout rank or if it means another SM conference after registering." Since no order is specified in the requirements, the SM conference can occur at any time.
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FScouter said, "This should be easy, but the Scout requirements should still be demonstrated as a Scout." Huh! How can you demonstrate requirements for Scout as a Scout? The requirements need to be completed before one is a "Scout." There nothing in the handbook that states that the requirements for Scout must be done after "joining" Boy Scouts. In fact, one could argue that they are the requirements for joining Boy Scouts. If you look at the handbook, it says, "Here's what you need to do to become a Boy Scout." Nothing says, "Complete and submit an application first, then do the rest of these things." There is no order to the items. I'd argue that if an SM, ASM, or troop instructor participated in the AOL process and ensured that the Webelos did everything, the Scout badge should be awarded upon crossing the bridge. More evidence is in the Handbook (the precious and holy Handbook that states all truth). On page 5, the photo's caption states "A graduating Webelos Scout who has Earned the Arrow of Light has completed most of the joining requirements. With the approval of his Scoutmaster he will recieve the Boy Scout badge upon joining the troop." After earning AOL, the only thing left to do is turn in the application for Boy Scouts.
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Moi-lin seems to approve of the brother's vulgar language, just more evidence of the general lack of class exhibited by atheists. Moi-lin also seems to equate "not being religious" with being an atheist. No one would ever call me religious since I skip church 50 weeks a year, dislike most organized religions, etc., etc., etc.. However, I am not an atheist and I would not be offended by people making religious comments at my funeral, even from my heavenly perch I wouldn't be offended by Christian comments, Bhuddist comments, Muslim comments, Jewish comment or even Wiccan comments.
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"I have only been doing the adult scouter thing in 3 decades (HOW DID I GET SO OLD??)" I've been pondering the same thing myself. It was only about two weeks ago that I was 22, thin, with blond hair (let's not forget the lack of ear hair), and the ability to dance all night long and then one day I woke up with gray hair, no longer rapier thin and my knees are killing me. Okay, to be honest it was about three weeks ago that I was . . .
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Nothing like a brother showing dignity, respect, and decorum at a memorial.
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"Their SM asked that we not have moms/ladies on campouts." What an enlightened attitude. We have moms, trained and registered moms, who go camping but spend most of their time acting like moms. Scurry, scurry, "do this . . . " "wash that . . ." One mom alwasys seems to have an excuse about why her Life Scout son is sleeping in her tent. "It was too dark for him to set up his tent. . ." "It was raining . . ." "There are bears in the next county . . ." Even worse is when the mom of one of the new Scouts is along, the Scout is constantly looking for mom. "I bumped my head . . ." "I cut my finger . . ." "I don't like what's for dinner . . ."
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Ah, the beauty of the freedom of speech. Ms Gonzalez mocks Tillman's beefy, masculine appearance and probably like men who are soft, dainty, and pliable. That is until some drunk decides to accost her in an bar then she'll be screaming at her date, "Act like a man! Defend me!" Evidently, in Ms Rodriguiz' mind, the only reason to be willing to put yourself in harm's way is money.
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"The reason given is that there are "things" that the girl might not be comfortable talking about with her father. " What about boys not being comfortable talking to a woman about a problem that their having? The official reason is a smoke screen. Society considers men to be untrustworthy around women so you need someone there for protection. Think of this. A woman goes to see a male doctor and they usually have a nurse in the room with them. However, I went to see a woman doctor and she just said, "Drop trou" and there was no second many in the room for my protection.
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In the last issue of Scouting there was a comment that it takes boys four times as long to plan an event as it does adults. That makes sense. We have a lifetime of experience that has given us an idea of what is possible, what is impossible and what needs to happen. Many, if not most, 12 year olds don't even know what is out there to begin to have an idea of what it is that they might want to do. Of course, they could just be a bunch of slugs like our Venture Patrol. "Hey guys, there's a great opportunity to going sailing over spring break." "Nah . . ." "Hey guys, an outfitter contacted me and wants some Scouts to take a FREE raft trip to check out his new rafting gear." "Nah . . ." "Hey guys, the Swedish Bikini Team is looking for escorts for their stay in town." "Nah . . ." It is truly sad. They just sit around and complain about having nothing to do.
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I would say that it all depends on the type of information being diseminated. For candidate A to say, "My opponent voted against welfare reform" is one thing. For that candidate to say, "my opponent is reported to oggled girls at the beach 15 years ago" is another.
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I know the owner of a gas station and he's told me that his price can take a sudden jump when his cost suddenly goes up. Other times, he'll reduce his mark up to hold his price steady until things get extreme. We also have some extreme gas taxes around here. Last I heard, I pay about 75 cents a gallon in state and local taxes. When the State House votes a gas tax increase, we get hammered immediately at the pumps.
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"The S.M. was asked his opionion in which he stated 'I have no problem with her attending campouts'" Maybe the SM and the ASM are playing patty-fingers . . . . hmmmmm?
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Our Council Service Center gives the pocket certificiates for rank when you turn in an advancement report. For merit badges and Webelos activity pins, you buy them in packs of 100. BSA has nothing better to do with their money so they keep changing the design of the cards. My son's been a Boy Scout for two years and has three different designs of merit badge cards.
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Our Council Service Center gives the pocket certificiates for rank when you turn in an advancement report. For merit badges and Webelos activity pins, you buy them in packs of 100. BSA has nothing better to do with their money so they keep changing the design of the cards. My son's been a Boy Scout for two years and has three different designs of merit badge cards.
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" Try filling our an advancement report for a boy that earns the Scout badge." Does the paper burst into flames? I believe that we file advancement reports for Scout. I called the Council registration office to check on a Scout's records and was given his date of registration, date for Scout, date for T-foot, and the dates of his merit badges.
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Love it! In the real world, have you seen the BIG vans that Freightliner makes?
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"epilets (sp?)" epaulets or epaulettes, from the French word for shoulder. In any case, the colored do-hickeys are properly called "shoulder loops" which are worn on the epaulets.
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Spam, spam, spam, spam! Wonderful spam! You don't even have to give out your email address to get spam. Some spammers just find a domain and start generating email addresses (a@abc.com, b@abc.com, etc). If mail gets bounced back, they remove that address from the list. If it doesn't get bounced, they assume that it is valid. I get about 100 spams a day. Deleteting them isn't the problem. I hate waiting for them to download. Fortunately, I have stopped my friends (all three of them) from sending me the joke of the day, etc.
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Judge rules Fiesta Island lease unconstitutional, too
Fat Old Guy replied to Merlyn_LeRoy's topic in Issues & Politics
Found this at http://www.religionnewsblog.com/6754-.html "It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ. I don't want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m.," she said. Interesting, this person doesn't even understand her own religion. I'm as intolerant as the next right wing white guy but I don't think that a call to prayer would bother me. I'm wondering about the amplified nature of the call. Bells aren't amplified. Perhaps there could be a decibel limit. Hey! If they ban the call to prayer maybe the government will do something about the school near me that has its clocks screwed up so the bells ring at 9 PM, 1 AM and other obnoxious times. -
Heck, for $55 your son should get NEW shorts and singlet AND get to keep them.
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Flag Retirement Ceremony Questions
Fat Old Guy replied to Greeneagle5's topic in Open Discussion - Program
What is meant by a private ceremony? 1 person? 2 people? One organization? I saw a flag burining at a summer camp campfire that was very nice. I was accompanied by that poem about the tattered old flag. The hundreds of boys were SILENT during the entire thing and the old farts (like me) were almost in tears. Maybe summer camp would be a good place to dispose of the HUGE flags.