evmori

I think as adult leaders we are to supply the opportunities & resources for the Scouts in our units to advance. How long it takes them is up to them.

I would agree with TCD, you are over reacting.

I love it when people make this kind of crap up! I'll bet their logic has something to do with their wrong interpretation of YP!(This message has been edited by evmori)

I would tell this so-called mentor his information is totally contradictory to National regs!

I haven't read the other replies to this so forgive me if this is a repeat. New parents are always allowed on campouts. By NOT letting them go you are violating YP, plus everyone has the right to see and witness the program. How is not letting parents on campouts a YP violation? Twocubdad, Tell them if all they are going to do is play cards to stay home. If they are willing to help out they can come.

We use to make sure the PL, SPL & ASPL knew of the homesickness & asked them to make sure the homesick Scout was always included in whatever activity was happening. It seemed that the homesickness was worse during down time. If this happened at summer camp prior to parent's night, I would call the parents and let them know of the situation and asked them to back us up & not take their Scout home with them. Not tooting my own horn, but we never had a homesick Scout go home because of homesickness.

My ASM & I got a chuckle out of the whole situation! When Bob's mom showed up about an hour later to pick him up the 1st thing she did was whack him upside the head and say "What's wrong with you?" Then she sat down & had a cup of coffee with us & we had a great chat!

Lead by example. The PL is part of the duty roster.

When I was a SM I had very few of these issues. However, from the posts we see in this and other forums, it appears these are more commonplace now. And I feel it really undermines the program when the parents are trying to make it all about their little Johnny & not seeing the big picture.

When is it too much? When everyone has to get something just because they were there!

How to stop lying. A little story. On a cabin camping trip, the seven Scouts that were along left the cabin to go fill up the water jugs. The pump was located out of eye sight & ear shot. There was a front loader and tractor located in the field beside the pump. The ASM and myself (SM at the time) told the Scouts to stay off the equipment. When the Scouts left the ASM & I started to make our lunch. About 10 minutes later, here comes one Scout back to the cabin. When asked why he was back, he said "Matt pushed me off the tractor." to which I responded "Who else was on the tractor?" and the Scout replied "Everyone but me." There was a little more discussion and about 10 minutes later the rest of the Scouts returned. I asked them all to sit down and looked at Matt and asked "Did you push Roy off the tractor?" Matt looked at his shoes then the rest of the Scouts and said "Yes I did." I then started with the Scout to my left and asked each one individually if they were on the tractor. One by one they responded with only Bob saying "No." I then asked Matt if everyone was on the tractor to which he replied "Yes." I then re-asked Bob if he was on the tractor and he looked at his shoes and sheepishly said "Yes." I asked him why he lied when I first asked hem and he said "Because I didn't want to get into trouble." to which I replied "Well are in trouble. The Scouts that told the truth are finishing the weekend trip. I am calling your mom to come pick you up right now. I don't condone lying." We never had a problem in out unit with lying during my tenure as SM.

Emphasize the objectives of new Scouts earning the First Class rank during the their first year and other Scouts earning at least one rank advancement each year. A basic goal should be for each Scout to advance a rank during the year. New Scouts should earn the First Class rank during their first year in the troop. Both are from the Advancement Committee Guidebook. While they don't specifically state there is a FCFY program, the guidebook does state this to be a goal and should be emphasized.

Is swimming allowed in this pond? If so, it would seem the only thing missing was proper supervision. If not, then I would not hold the PL responsible for this. He was doing his job and trusted his patrol. They let him down. Now he needs to deal with that. Removing him serves no purpose. Advising him on how to handle the situation is the proper way to go.

Since it is getting close to recharter time, it sounds like talking to your COR about the current CM should be in order. From your posts, it sounds like it is time for the current CM to move on & a new CM needs to step up. Your COR is the one who approves all adult leadership and they should be the one to tell the current CM his services are no longer needed.

I'm with Basementdweller on this! Why does someone have to get something?

Sounds like this patrol doesn't want to be told what to do by "one of their own" And that deer in the headlights look you got is pretty normal. Sounds like it is time for the PL to go to the SPL & maybe the SM for advise. Then it could be the rest of the patrol just isn't mature enough regardless of age.

Excellent summation OGE! Thanks!

Don't think there is any rule that states there is a waiting period to be eligible for a POR if a Scout transfers in from another unit. That said, I think it is a good idea. A waiting period will allow the Scout time to integrate into his new unit and will allow the new unit to get to know the Scout better.

I have a troop where my step son attends where the father is paying his son $50.00 per merit badge and $100.00 for Star, $200.00 for Life and $400.00 for Eagle. If you don't like conflict - ignore it. If you do, offer the Scout a higher price - $55/MB, $110/Star, $250/Life and $500/Eagle not to earn them and see what happens. That's only gonna cost ya $55!

I would stay out of this one! No sit down needed unless dad starts disrupting the chemistry of the unit.

Interesting! Wonder since it isn't in writing if this Scout should appeal!

1. Cub Scouts can use power drills. True 2. Citronella fluid can be used to start campfires. False 3. Bears and Webelos can do outdoor cooking. True 4. Webelos 2 can use propane stoves. Webelos 2 doesn't exist which makes the question not valid. 5. Tiger Cubs can go horseback riding. False As someone posted, these questions are based on guidelines not hard and fast rules!

"Could it be that people with bad credit ratings statistically have more auto insurance claims? Just sayin...." I don't think so. I think the reason is people with lower credit ratings are considered a higher risk maybe not for claims but just for payment.

If we had gone the standard route, SM would have issued five separate blue cards with the name of a MBC and taken a week to get each one to my son. No he wouldn't. And if he did, so what?

You make a good point Lisa.