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Sure the Bible is open to interpretation. But interpreting James 5:12 to mean it's a sin to take any oath other than to God is absurd! I would hate to see how Matt interprets Proverbs 4:7 or any other verse for that fact. Unbelievable! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

SO what if he responds, this is my jacket, I paid for it and unless you bought it for me there is nothing you can do about it? Then politely tell him he is no longer welcome at camp and remind him which part of the Scout Law he is out of tune with. From what has been posted it sounds like it was a warm week at camp & the Scout wearing this jacket was wearing it to show-it-off & not for warmth. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Thanks OGE. That settles that! Another rumor quelled.

What are gay ethics? I like Broadway show tunes! Especially "Fiddler on the Roof"!

What hetero ethics and role models do you demonstrate to Scouts? Hetero ethics? Interesting. The ethics I model are housed in the Scout Law and Oath. As far as a role model, same thing. I feel >Just because no one was hurt doesn't necessarily make it OK. >We are responsible for our actions. >There are consequences for our actions. There are many more but all fall in the same vein. Nothing hetero about it. Just ethical. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Kahuna, It might be all about $$$ & not about role modeling at a National level. But, as for me & my house, we will serve the Lord. In other words, for me, it is all about role modeling & ethics. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Matt, You have to be kidding! Taking an oath a sin? I don't think so. You need to get your hands on a good study bible then get enrolled in a good bible study. Maybe then you will start to understand the meaning of the verses you are posting. It is apparent you don't understand them now. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Cell phones in themselves are not bad. It's how they are used that creates the problems. And if we start worrying "mommy will own the camp" if we don't let an 11 year old use his cell phone then we are not addressing the problem. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

So if "Bob, Ed and the gentleman from New Jersey" are getting together for a group hug, who's gonna ride shotgun? WHEELER, FOG & juris!

Think Western. Think stagecoach. Think of the guy sitting to the right of the stagecoach driver.

I would like to know why the BSA decision makers believe avowed homosexuals would not be good role models. Until they explain that, I have very little ammunition to argue with. I don't know about the BSA but I don't think homosexuals - avowed or not - make good role models. Why? I don't feel their lifestyle is one I would want my kids to emulate. If homosexuality is normal, why aren't their more homosexuals? Why did God destroy two entire cities? Why do you feel homosexuals are good role models? ED Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

So, the quesiton is, why cant sexual orientation be genetic, I can't prove it is, but what is the proof it is not? Then it's a choice. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Group hug?

Bob is absolutely correct.

OK so are juris & Centerville one in the same like Backpacker suggested?

Joe, You are permitted to sign-off on your son's merit badges. There is no BSA regulation saying you can't. I do feel like you do and what you are doing is perfectly OK. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Lived in the Northeast all my life & been using the term "shotgun" for most of it! Stupid rule! What if you only have a two seater? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

EagleInKY, I think you went above and beyond in this case. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Actually, OGE, I did take that into consideration. Aencephaly can be either genetic or caused by medication taken by the mother or exposure to radiation. So, it isn't necessarily genetic. As far as I know, blindness & deafness are genetic. Is being gay genetic? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

So, OGE, you are saying being gay is the same as being deaf or blind? Interesting. Deaf & blind people usually have something genetic that went haywire & is usually inherited. Is being gay genetic? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Ed, when you want to discriminate, you should be the one proving it's a choice not hard-wired. Actually, Gern, if gays were hard-wired the gay community would have a valid point about discrimination. Since they aren't you don't. And since you can't prove it using it as a defense against gays not meeting the BSA membership requirements is just skewing the issue. Actually Ed, I was just like you at one point in my life. I thought gays were repulsive, immoral sodomites. They chose to be that way, just like a drug addict or criminal. Actually, Gern, you know nothing about me. I have never thought gays were repulsive, immoral sodomites or anything else you posted. I have known many gay people and have found most to be very nice. I have also found some to be not very nice. Sorta like straight people. Then I went to college and met my roommate Todd. He was kind, athletic, smart and as normal as one could hope. We became good friends had good times for years to come. A few years later, we were talking at a party and he told me he was gay. He was worried I might reject him, but our friendship prevailed. I started asking him why he was gay. He said he didn't choose to be, he just was. For the next few years, he and I had long frank discussions on homosexuality, discrimination, friendship, love, marriage, children, women and men. I met many of his friends, some I liked, some I didn't. We drifted apart and 10 years later, I found out from his mother that he died of AIDS. Sad story. Anyways, I find people like you Ed, have never had a close, open relationship with a gay person. I think you would find them to be good, moral people, just different. Once again, Gern, you no nothing about me. You are making your assumptions based on your own beliefs. As a Christian, I do not hate anyone. I don't like everyone equally but I hate no one. I try to treat all people the way I would want them to treat me. This doesn't mean I condone their lifestyle. I don't always. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

The humor impaired are here!

NIscouter, I won't admit to something I don't think is true, either. Is it possible that by removing a Scout from a POR because of poor performance is a motivator? Could be! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Huh? Centerville & juris the same person? Well, it's happened before. Scouter Terry would you please clear this up for us. Thanks Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

No one is saying he has no potential! No one is saying give up on him! Even Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team! Everyone learns in different ways & at different rates. Heck, my two kids are a great example! One gets it the 1st time & the other has to be kicked in the head to get it. Did I give up on either? No. Not all Scouts are going to be leaders. Some don't want to & some can't. There is nothing wrong with that! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10