evmori

Well, I'm not gonna be all warm & fuzzy. Hiding & deception are great character traits for a Scouter. We need more of them! Oh yeah, trustworthy, too. We should be thanking the ex-wife for cluing the unit in on the type of individual that was applying to be a Scout leader. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Does this make sense? The whole purpose of these inane rulings that will be over turned is to get these issues in the news so when they actually build a case, the ACLU will have more support? Does this make sense? Torveaux, Great post. Especially the last paragraph. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

We don't have enough information. Something else is going on here. It doesn't seem like any bullying is going on. It seems like "Ralph" has a way with the other Scouts your son doesn't. I mean nothing mean by that statement just an observation. We don't have enough information. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

So because of the words "under God" there are those who want the Pledge removed. I'll bet the clown who the ACLU talked into filing this suit spends the US currency that has "In God We Trust" on it. Anyone see the hypocrisy here? Little Johnny's parents are offended by the words "Under God" but give him fiver with the words "In God We Trust" on it to pay for lunch! Unbelievable! We are becoming the USSR! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Gotta disagree jd. No one is forcing anyone to recite the Pledge. If a kid doesn't want to say it, all he has to do is keep his mouth shut during the reciting of the pledge. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Jack's not nimble Jack is pouting Jack can't jump over the Guide to Safe Scouting Bob, Are you suggesting not taking a Troop on these type of trips if the leaders in the Troop aren't trained in the activity? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

You could probably get the 9th Circuit Court to declare saying the the sky is blue is unconstitutional because it discriminates against the color blind! childrens right to be free from a coercive requirement to affirm God. Never knew this was a right or a problem! Hey while we are at it let's get "In God We Trust" removed from all our money & get every reference ever printed about God removed from any material that might be possibly read by someone that might be offended by it! The offensive thing here is the 9th Circuit Court. The up side is they have been over turned more than a hotel mattress! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Nothing will probably happen. It sounds like you have a good handle on things. Just keep your eyes open all the time. FScouter, 16 year olds to young to date "steady" but mature enough to be an Eagle Scout? Double edged sword there, my friend. And making assumptions based on nothing. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

(This message has been edited by a staff member.) This is the response I wa referring to! Considering Greying Beaver seems to double post it looks like two were whited out.

Great response.

The Smith issue has nothing to do with this thread but from the articles I have read Smith didn't step down until after he was charged with kiddie porn. And membership falsification, regardless of the percentage, is just wrong and should not be tolerated. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

OGE, You gotta be kidding! Sure Pete did the same thing, I think. But if I'm not mistaken, his crime occurred in England. Smith was in charge of YP for the Boy Scouts of America & the purveyor of kiddie porn on the side. Notice any sort of conflict there? Are you suggesting what Smith did was OK & should be overlooked? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

The organization placed him on administrative leave after learning that he was under criminal investigation, and Smith stepped down soon afterward From this it sounds like Smith was still employed by the BSA, got caught with kiddie porn, charged, placed on leave by the BSA, then retired from the BSA. What part did I get wrong? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Based on the Northeast numbers Eamonn posted, it seems we are no getting the boys at the Tiger age and it just mushrooms from there. Fewer Cubs Scouts = fewer Boy Scouts. And that's what the numbers reflect. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

It seems Smith was placed on leave prior to retiring. Therefore he was still a BSA employee & his pension & benefits could be revoked since he was charged with a felony while he was employed by the BSA not after he retired. Wonder why he was allowed to retire? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

And I always thought Jack of the Jack Be Nimble tale was a little nuts! Jumping over a campfire? Why? Never heard of any type of ceremony or initiation that had anything to do with jumping over a campfire! Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Training is important. I still think mandatory training for all adults is a good idea. But training isn't the be all answer. My unit is different than Bob's and Bob's is different than OGE's & OGE's is different than packsaddle's! And what works for my unit might not work for packsaddle's, etc. We need to be aware of what is going on in our communities. We need to be aware of what the kids in or communities like. If all we do is get trained & learn the company lines & expect the kids to come to us then, well, we ain't gonna get many kids. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

If the requirement is nothing more than to "tell someone" all the Scout would have to do is say "Hey Mike, wanna join my Scout Troop? We go camping. All ya gotta do is fill out an application." And it the Scout tells us he did this, it is considered done. Sounds really weak. I wish someone knew the thinking behind adding this as a requirement. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

I got it now! Actually, Ordep isn't that bad. Garfield, now that's another story! OK maybe that was a cheap shot. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. But why censor mine & let Bob's cheap shots go? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Yeah we don't agree on what "active in your Troop or Patrol" is. But you can't be "active in you Troop or Patrol" if you aren't there. I still think the thing to do here is find another Troop! Not showing "enough" leadership is just an excuse & I'd bet this SM will come up with a bunch more of them. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

Why is this being considered to be added as a requirement? What is the logic behind it? Does anyone know? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

What's Ordep (cheap shot at bobwhite removed) (This message has been edited by a staff member.)

I would agree that fundraising if done properly is a Troop activity. But fundraising is a requirement for any rank. I made a typo in the above post. It should read "I would agree that fundraising if done properly is a Troop activity. But fundraising is NOT a requirement for any rank." Sorry for the confusion. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

1 - Same amount of time but a ton more ways to fill it. 4 - These things always hurt an organization. 13 - These jokers are out to destroy the BSA. These are my main three. The others do contribute but a lesser level. Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10

I would agree that fundraising if done properly is a Troop activity. But fundraising is a requirement for any rank. Wonder what the logic of this NEW requirement is? Ed Mori Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10