evmori

Anyone can be a MB Counselor for any Scout.

Again with the conversion stuff! A teacher can ask a student what denomination they are! And if the student doesn't want to tell, that is their prerogative, but the question is allowed.

Who's talking about converting anyone? This is about prayer in public school, not conversion! If a student asks a teacher a religious question, he/she can answer it. 1st Amendment! And a teacher can ask a student a religious question? 1st Amendment! And neither would be establishing any type of religion!

I'm still trying to get my arms around Bob's example & I'm having a tough time of it? Would someone please clear it up for me?

Guess we will never find out who the Top 10 Are!

The first amendment does far more than prohibit a state religion; it prohibits an establishment of religion. Official public school prayers violate that. What religion do official public school prayers establish? This 1st Amendment of which you speak also insures the freedom of speech & religion. You always seem to forget that part. Smile!

oh pshaw!

I wasn't referring to his post, John. I was referring to Bob's. I'm pretty sure (don't have the resources with me) that same wording is in National's version, too.

As you said that is from a local council document, created by local volunteers who may not have read the National rules too carefully. No one said it was a local council document. It is a Local Tour Permit due to the fact it is for a trip of less than 500 miles and withing in the USA - Local Tour Permit Application, No. 34426E. There is a National form on the BSA web site. A National Tour Permit application is used for trips over 500 miles and/or outside the USA - National Tour Permit Application, No. 4419C. This is also a National form and is also on the BSA web site. Another mis-interpretation. Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10 (This message has been edited by evmori)

There is no state religion. Never has been. So by stating prayer in public schools promotes a state religion is not connecting the dots properly.

Again, my post is removed without any explanation! It was not a personal attack! It was an observation! And I actually agreed with Bob! Maybe that's why it was removed!

Let me see if I understand this. During a den meeting in her home, a member of her den was hit by a car and killed? Did the car come into her home & run the scout down & it resulted in his death?

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All these posts & we still don't know who the top 10 are!

Happy your here, brother

Rooster7! Hello! Welcome back! Currently, a BOR is not to retest. Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10

I just read that entire thread! I gotta get out more! Brings back memories! And we are having a deja vu of sorts aren't we?

I don't like umbrellas. Never have. I'd rather years a slicker with a hood. Umbrellas are awkward to carry & tend to get blown apart when it's windy. A rain slicker will keep you drier & warmer than any umbrella. Using personal resources is very helpful and one of the things taught in every level of scouting leadership training. The problem is that it is impossible to prove especially on this forum where posters refuse to even believe information printed in BSA documents. Or read information without the shadow of their own personal bias. No one has doubted the validity or even disputed what you have posted about the Unit Money Earning form or what is in the Advancement & Procedures or the Uniform & Insignia Guide. What is being disputed is how you are applying the rules for each individual piece to come up with you interpretation that an ELSP is not a Scouting project. Who wants to go get some ice cream? Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10(This message has been edited by evmori)

Bob, If being the leader in getting the last word on threads in this forum is something you are guilty of, don't lose any sleep over it my friend. There are many things of far greater importance. Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10

Let's not forget the uniform isn't required to be a BSA member! Just thought I would toss that out there!

Neither the Guide to Safe Scouting nor any other BSA publication gives a parent permission to approve another adult to sleep in a tent with their boy. Rather, it specifically says other adults may NOT sleep with a boy. Why does a parent need permission from the BSA if a temporary guardian is legally assigned? Answer - They don't. G2SS 7. When staying in tents, no youth will stay in the tent of an adult other than his or her parent or guardian. Then again, looks like they have it anyway. Note the G2SS doesn't state legal guardian. Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10(This message has been edited by evmori)

I think the purpose is to determine who the Top 10 Last Word Posters are! Now how that is relevant to anything is not clear, but I wanna know who #1 is! Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10

OK Bob. Since you have gleaned all this data, pray tell us who the top five are! Heck, give us the top 10! We (well most) are adults here! We can take it! Inquiring minds want to know! Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10

Gold Winger, courts have ruled that having school officials tell grade school students to pray is coercion. I would agree but having a time for voluntary prayer isn't.

Congrats to your son kittle!