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In Wisconsin, the state I love, one common household substance was outlawed until the late fifties-early sixties. What was the product? 1000 "Who's Line is it" points to the answerer . . . Okay -- I'll give the answer. Margarine. Unc. What does your state have?

This isn't fun anymore. Not that it ever was, but my response could answer a few questions for the lurkers. Sanhedrin -- as referred to by Jason -- The highest council of the ancient Jews, consisting of 71 members and excercising authority from about the 2nd century B.C. Nah, that's not my club. I'm a Presbyterian. Not Jewish. I find it very interesting that you want to tell me what I believe and don't believe in. I do believe in Jesus Christ. I just don't beleive in you. I'm sorry that you have decided that I'm your enemy. However, I've had enough of your stuff. This forum is about Scouting. Let's stick to that subject. Unc.

BACKSPACE BACKSPACE Raspberrys Washed my hands. Unc.

Jason: There is a time that comes swiftly when enough is enough. You've gone from crude jokes regarding Brownies to attempting to save the souls of everyone posting here in an amazingly short period of time. It's too much. I can't speak for everyone else, but I've had enough. I appreciate your respectful answers to the questions I've asked with all sincereity. I truly do. However, I'm not sure your preaching has any more value than your crude sense of humor. I ask you to seek the middle ground. Live and learn. Watch and post your thoughts. Don't quote specific Bible verses. Just join the conversation. Keep to your tenents. I have no trouble with your beliefs. I don't buy all of them, but don't have an argument with them. I guess I am asking you to lighten up a little. Heaven will come soon enough. Unc.

Jason: Thank you for attempting to answer the heart of my question. However, not all the gospels are eye witness accounts, as you said. The Book of John (the most often quoted from) was not written until well after Jesus died on the Cross. I think at least one other gospel was written by someone who was not alive at the time of His passing as well. So my question remains on the table. Memory is dim from college days, but I believe Mark was the only one who was alive at the time Jesus lived. That does not in any way diminish my belief in Him, but I do believe that humans are human and may have screwed up a bit in their attempt to portray Truth. Unc. Oh, and lay off the Mormons, will ya'll? The comments made about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints that I've seen in this thread are among the most bigotted comments I've run across in a long time. There's no call for it.

NJ: Thanks for the laugh. The Jewish kid in my troop probably would have eaten anything in front of him, but made a big deal out of being Jewish. I think he wanted to be different. We were a small troop of 7 boys at the time and I wanted to honor the Hindu and the Jew as well as the Presbyterians who chartered us. Unfortuately, with 7 boys, patrol method is hard to do, so we planned menus as a group. I was the one who said no pork and no beef. That left poultry and lamb. Good thing I love lamb and had the recipes and spices to make it happen. Unc.

I hope this thread is fading out. I just read all 14 pages for the first time. It made interesting reading. Some posts were ugly. Over the 30 years I have been involved in Scouting, I've had the honor of working with, playing with and even leading, Scouts and Scouters of the following faiths/belifs. I respect each and every one of their belief systems and have studied them. Native Americans -- I admire the spirituality of their beliefs and their respect for other religions. Muslims -- Growing up in my troop, we had a couple. They were devoted to God and simply worshiped Him in a different way. Hindu -- had a Scout in my troop who was a Hindu. His belief system was very different than my own, but he followed it and so did his family. Mormon -- The only truly American religion as far as I'm concerned. I've read the Book of Mormon and the Word of Wisdom. I respect the religion, although it isn't in line completely with what I believe. Jew -- I'm fascinated by Judaism and am currently reading a book about it. Had a Jewish boy in the troop at the same time and in the same patrol as the hindu boy. We ate a lot of chicken on campouts. Catholic -- My great grandfather, who's father was "asked to leave" Ireland for his actions as a Protestant would roll over in his grave reading this, but I have a deep respect for the Roman Catholic Church. Protestant -- I've worked with the whole gamut. I respect those who believe what they profess they believe. Regardless of what I believe or what you believe, wouldn't you agree that the world would run much more smoothly and with far less violence if we all just agreed to respect the beliefs of others? I apologize for the long post, but what the heck? I read 14 pages of this stuff before touching my keyboard. Now I have a question I'd like an answer to from the Christian fundamentalists posting here. Please believe me when I say it is not asked with sarcasm. I truly want to know: If gospel means Truth (as I have learned it does.) Why does it take four attempts (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) each with a different spin and differing stories, to explain that Truth? Unc.

Thanks, Boleta. I try to give good advice. To all on the forum, one of the rules I try to follow is the axiom below: IF YOU WOULDN'T SAY IT INTO AN OPEN MICROPHONE TO THE WORLD, THEN DON'T SAY IT HERE. This is an open "mike" to the world. Reagan learned the lesson the hard way. Learn it the easy way from him. Fifteen hundred points (just like Who's Line) to anyone who understands the above reference. Unc.

BadenP: Please take this message in the spirit in which I read yours (friendship offered.) What you don't know is that there was a poster here in the not too distant future (long about February 2004) who came in and early in his posts (before he had posted much more than 10 times) he was insulting all forum members and lecturing us on what Scouting should be. Look up WHEELER in the search feature. You came in in much the same way. Throwing around 3 years of experience as a BSA pro didn't help your case. Three years simply isn't that long, although it is a long enough time to become a Senior District Executive. All I ask is that you extend your olive branch and I think you'll find it to be well received. Terms like Crybaby and "don't know squat" are inflamatory and will lead to verbal castigations. It's okay to type them, but then click the "back" button on your browser without posting. When in doubt, don't post it. Hope to hear from you, peacefully, in the future. Unc.

Eamonn, dear friend. You owe us an apology. Please do not be so polite as to offer an honorific such as "sir" to one who does not deserve the honor. Thank you, Sir. PS -- you know exactly whereof you speak. I for one, respect you deeply. Your friend and cooker of your leg o' lamb for Easter 2005! Unc.

Hands in my pockets, head both down and up, this old Scouting veteran wanders away from the light of the campfire shaking his head. He's seeking guidance. Do I blast the youth pastor who calls us names or blast the man who bemoans the role women have rightfully taken in Scouting and tells off color, but not quite over the line, jokes online? Or do I try to reconcile these things. I'm not sure. I find the answers with God in the woods. Odds are, I'll come out somewhere in between. Dissention is one thing. It is respectible and acceptable. Dis-respect and name calling are not respectible. They are unnacceptable. I'll make my decision and get back to you. Notice that I have called no one names in this post. I used only titles -- pastor and man. The descriptors following the title were only representations of what has been posted. I'll be back. Unc.

BSAT -- Welcome to the forums! Does BSAT stand for Boy Scout Aptitude Test? Just kidding. If you're in High School, you'll get the joke. My advice to you to have even more fun at Cub Scout Camp on staff is to take the job seriously. Work with the kids and do your duties well. There is plenty of time to play with your buddies on the off hours. Remember that you're there, first and foremost, for the paying customer -- the Cub Scout. Your own fun will follow. Good luck. Let us know how it works out. Unc.

Why don't you contact the 7th district of the USCG and ask them to fax you a copy of the agreement? We don't all have scanners. The phone and fax numbers to contact them are easily found on the internet. Unc.

Beaver: You will probably get better results at your booth at the elementary school if you can convince some of your older Scouts (or current Scouts, if they're all young) to run the booth while the adults guide from the background. The younger kids will respond to the older kids better than to adults. I love the lock-in idea. Unc.

I see the problem now. Your problem isn't with showing the tattos. It's more a problem of improper placement. The Eagle tattoo should be just under the left breast. Under the right breast, you may place a temporary tatto. The right shoulder is reserved for designating your council and unit affiliation. The left shoulder is for the American flag. Just having a little fun on an afternoon break. Smile and relax. Unc.

Growing up, I always wanted to be an officer in the United States Army. I secured a congressional nomination to West Point, but failed the medical review. I ended up falling back onto my second choice of career and have never looked back or regretted it. I love my job. Unc.

Ignoring the title of the thread, I'll answer the actual question in the first post: If adults want to drink Kool Aid on a campout, it is perfectly accceptable. That is, if you're referring to Kool Aid that is comprised of flavor, sugar and water -- the brand name. It's even okay if they want to drink Hi C or any other drink allowed for sale to 12 year olds. Unc.

Jason: I laughed. I read the original question. I use the title of the thread to determine whether the topic catches my interest or not. But I always read the original quesiton and attempt to answer it. I prefer peach Kool Aid, if I have to drink the stuff. Generally, I don't have to drink the stuff, so I don't even know if they still make it. Unc.

Ignoring the title of the thread, I'll answer the actual question in the first post: If adults want to drink Kool Aid on a campout, it is perfectly accceptable. That is, if you're referring to Kool Aid that is comprised of flavor, sugar and water -- the brand name. It's even okay if they want to drink Hi C or any other drink allowed for sale to 12 year olds. Unc.

Jana: Bienvenedos. Please accept my bow from deeply at my waist and accept my apologies for not knowing Portugese. I would love to see a Jamboree in Brazil. I spent some time in South America in my youth and loved the Andes. If there ever is one, I will do my best to be there. Good luck to you and thank you for communicating with us! Your friend, Unc.

I can vouch for Bob! He is a registered leader. He'll also be the first to tell you he doesn't know it all but he has an extensive library. Right, big guy? Unc.

Muckraker: You are correct. Welcome to the electronic campfire! Unc.

I just looked at the scoutstuff web site. The different styles of Scout Sox are still listed under the current stuff. It doesn't look to me like they're being phased out. I also saw the socks under the closeout. The only difference in the description is the sizing. The newer ones have shoe sizes as well as s,m,l,xl, etc. The older ones are just generally sized. Perhaps small in the closeout is much smaller than the other? Unc.

Hi there: A comment made in a thread unworthy of spin-off got me to start this one. (isn't that the definition of a spin off? I think so.) Anyhow, Senior Forum Member, raise your hand if you're a registered leader in the BSA. Most, but not all, hands are up. Raise your hand if you don't welcome new members to the forum. No hands in the air. Raise your hand if you know all there is to know about the BSA. Again, no hands. The guy with his hand in the air is just pulling your leg My point is that a Senior Forum member in this format is simply someone who has been posting a lot . . . in short, the criteria is to be noisy, but not neccessarily knowledgeable. For example, Merlyn LeRoy is not a member of the BSA. Has never and never will be a member of the BSA, and he is a senior forum member. By the rules of engagement, he has earned that. My sentences above about him are not intended to insult, nor are they untrue. My final point in this thread is, please, new forum members, don't let the senior forum member status throw you. Join in, have fun, and help enlighten us all. Welcome lurker. Put your hand on the keyboard and chime in. Any thoughts from the Seniors . . . BTW -- we ain't all old Unc.

Rydive: Welcome to the forums! Unc.