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    • Sounds like some of the damage is being done based on how and where people park and how that affects where and how they pull out. If the staff parks the trailer, then they know how you are going to leave, so that's why they are not so worried about the pull out. 
    • I agree.  There is a staffer posted at each campsite to greet and assist incoming troops, then once camp is set take the guys on an orientation tour.  A 10' x 20' gravel pad at each site near the road would would prevent any difficulties.  But, as I wrote in an earlier post, gravel costs money.  In the current system troops arrive at the campsite with personal gear then wait as much as 2.5 hours for their trailer with troop gear (tents) to appear.  This year in a camp leaders Zoom call the camp director discussed the importance of working quickly to set camp.  Apparently staff is inconvenienced by the delays.  To me this smacks of defending a bad decision.  InquisitiveScouter suggested finding another camp.  That's in the works. 
    • This is so weird to me- you can drive out, but not in. If their real intent is not just have folks driving o'er hill and dale and trampling everything on the way, it would seem that the Camp staff could serve a purpose on saying "you will be accompanied by Camp Staff to drop trailers at the appropriate troop campsite". Our camp has a designated hour, before campers are to arrive, for units that wish to have a trailer at their campsite. Staff don't physically ride along with them (as they are typically the youth staff), but they will meet them at the campsite if the unit is not familiar with where to appropriately place trailers (Ranger allows in site entryway, but not within the campsite proper).
    • The goal is control and to minimize road and camp site grounds maintenance costs.  Gravel costs money. Beaumont is occupied by 22 tent sites, 12 lodges, a pool and a large office and dining facility.  Undeveloped areas are wetlands and facultative wetlands.  The rest has poor drainage.  The three main roads have a gravel surface. The tent site clusters are accessed by moderately rutted dirt roads.  Camp management claims troops towing their own trailers in cause damage to roads and sites due to lack of familiarity with conditions.  However, troops towing their trailers out at week's end apparently do not. Vehicles transporting people and their gear are allowed access on entry and departure. Adult campers may drive in and park on the road during the week if they have limited mobility documented on their medical forms.  One of our camp leaders has two bad knees.  A friend might loan me his surplus deuce and a half for the week.  A compliant solution. 
    • So what is the reasoning behind this? I am imagining something like all non-staff are now forbidden from driving on the camp period? Is that the goal? What are they trying to achieve, what is the true goal here? 
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