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By SiouxRanger · Posted
My analysis is based on the facts presented. The parent's intent is pretty clear: Dupe their employer into making a MATCHING charitable donation, all the while the parent intending to effectively retract their donation. Why, oh WHY would the parent not just pay for their scout's expenses straight-away without involving their employer??? To obtain $$$ from their employer AT NO EXPENSE to the parent. They never made a donation for their employer to match. My analysis is always subject to reexamination if further facts are presented. Stick to legal analysis and skip the name-calling. -
By InquisitiveScouter · Posted
Well, your legal analysis is shoddy. You have assumed the parents' intent without any knowledge other than the OP. And cast several other aspersions on them without any verifiable facts. As a lawyer, you should know better. As a Scout, you should be ashamed. -
By SiouxRanger · Posted
I practice law for a living. Over 45 years now. Legal analysis is not a beauty contest. I stand by my analysis. -
YinYan: Thank you for "Being There" (a very good movie by the way) for our youth. You will eventually be glad you did. Going over this once more. I retired from local gov't service about umpteen years ago, and we had a similar program. I could (and did) donate money to a charity , and got the appropriate tax benefit, and my employer also donated an equal amount to the charity. The charity got twice the money, I got a tax bene, All good. The charity does good things, so I support them. I might even , eventually need the service they provide, but did not seek to use it in any way. The charity gets to decide what to do with the money to serve the purpose they serve. In YOUR situation, what I hear is this: Parent would donate money to a charity , in this case, his Scout's Troop, thru the CO apparently, and his employer would send an equal amount to the Scout Troop too, thru the CO. All good, Scouting gets twice the money, the parent can use the tax benefit as allowed. They are BOTH "Charity donations", yes? BUT... Parent now wants her/his donation credited specifically to his/her Scout's benefit to pay for fees, dues, etc. This is not right or appropriate or legal in many ways, and I am surprised the parent does not realize this. Or do they? Donations to any charity must be done with no expectation of a personal benefit in return, no Quid Pro Quo.... That makes it a business transaction, not a DONATION. Our Scout Council has several properties that are named for the donor that paid for them. That is the only "quo" I see in that. Did their son or Grandson or Great Grand daughter get any direct benefit? I don't know, but the name is on the gate and above the door. Your parent wants both a charitable donation AND paid Scout fees from the same bag of money. Tain't funny, Magee.... -
Thanks for the low point to low point comparison. This seems to be the real change, a loss of ~4-5% overall. Your other point is valid, though, like you said a different analysis. Your point brings about some misleading headlines that National seems to want to publicize by using low point to high point comparison.
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