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Scouting ranks, merit bades, and the advancement programs
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YinYan: Thank you for "Being There" (a very good movie by the way) for our youth. You will eventually be glad you did. Going over this once more. I retired from local gov't service about umpteen years ago, and we had a similar program. I could (and did) donate money to a charity , and got the appropriate tax benefit, and my employer also donated an equal amount to the charity. The charity got twice the money, I got a tax bene, All good. The charity does good things, so I support them. I might even , eventually need the service they provide, but did not seek to use it in any way. The charity gets to decide what to do with the money to serve the purpose they serve. In YOUR situation, what I hear is this: Parent would donate money to a charity , in this case, his Scout's Troop, thru the CO apparently, and his employer would send an equal amount to the Scout Troop too, thru the CO. All good, Scouting gets twice the money, the parent can use the tax benefit as allowed. They are BOTH "Charity donations", yes? BUT... Parent now wants her/his donation credited specifically to his/her Scout's benefit to pay for fees, dues, etc. This is not right or appropriate or legal in many ways, and I am surprised the parent does not realize this. Or do they? Donations to any charity must be done with no expectation of a personal benefit in return, no Quid Pro Quo.... That makes it a business transaction, not a DONATION. Our Scout Council has several properties that are named for the donor that paid for them. That is the only "quo" I see in that. Did their son or Grandson or Great Grand daughter get any direct benefit? I don't know, but the name is on the gate and above the door. Your parent wants both a charitable donation AND paid Scout fees from the same bag of money. Tain't funny, Magee.... -
Thanks for the low point to low point comparison. This seems to be the real change, a loss of ~4-5% overall. Your other point is valid, though, like you said a different analysis. Your point brings about some misleading headlines that National seems to want to publicize by using low point to high point comparison. -
By InquisitiveScouter · Posted
And I'll bet you the BSA Annual Report had numbers as of year end, which would include those under the grace period... that is, people who did not pay their renewal fees under the new system, but were being carried on the rolls anyway. So, whenever we do get to see the 2024 Annual Report, you could probably cut those numbers by 20-25% to get closer to reality. -
By InquisitiveScouter · Posted
I wasn't making that comparison, but was showing the effects of hiding numbers with a "grace" period. But, since you asked... From Apr 24 to Apr 25: Cub Scout: 2.4% loss, with a loss of 8 Packs Scout: 5.7% loss, with a loss of 8 Troops Venturing: 49% loss, with a loss of 1 Crew (it was a big and popular Crew) Exploring: 11% loss, with a loss of 3 Posts -
His numbers seem to jive with what I am seeing in my district/council. Sounds like we lost 25% of membership in 24 hours. On a personal note I got off the phone with my COR and I told them that we're fine, we have no action to take, the numbers that dropped from our roll were expected and unavoidable. I reminded them that the extra paperwork I had them chasing the past few weeks to get our handful of not renewed over the line is right now paying with dividends as no one at council can complain about our units membership status; we had no sloppy losses due to laziness (which I suspect a lot of other units are now dealing with).
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