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We have myriad examples of poor end results when the first notice of overreach and ignornce appeared and we ignored it. Bringing it to the fore just makes it less of a total surprise when one of the ego meisters in charge gets such poor ideas. What the nay sayers never note in regard to the Jambo involvments is the almost free training and practice the Military gets in those events. Dealing with large groups in events and emergencies is difficult to stage, so the Jambo offers one way for that to happen. In 85 when "Bob" came to visit, the Army made themselves proud in their response and support. The speed and turn around of drying out thousands of sleeping bags and restoring order in flattened areas was beyond expectations. And, if our old friend Joe Price's story to me as to how he became a collector is partly true, the Military drew on early Scouting manuals and training to kick start and support the huge training needs. He was tasked in his position in a part of the support groups in finding as many of those Scouting resources for training support that he could, and so it became a long time hobby after the War. He told me once that the original Field Book by Hillcourt wa one of the standard resources, as were the early Sea Scout manuals. And the continued service to honor Vets on the various National Days is almost expected in many communities. The service to the Civil War reunion in the thirties or the flag postings in cemeteries we see regularly. Many instances of horable Flag retirements at Scout camps, and the Eagle projects that focus on respect for the military and its members. IF this actually is proposed, I suspect it will NOT be well received by Congress, even in this confused period of our history. -
I have to believe the vast majority of units probably follow school schedules to a greater or lesser degree for simply pragmatic reasons. And most units can still manage to keep scouts engaged and active without a formal meeting every single week. People have posted examples here. There is generally plenty to engage scouts over a summer break, from camp to high adventure or volunteering. When units are failing, it's because of a hundred other problems that currently exist in scouting. -
By InquisitiveScouter · Posted
We are potentially making much ado about nothing here. As outlined in another post, this is a leaked draft memo that could amount to a whole lot of nothing. When SECWAR or POTUS comment on it, or you see a memo with a signature on it, then it will mean something. -
I can tell you fact, fact of my district and council, the units that do not meet year round are the weakest units. The only thing keeping those units around is the unit retention metric driving the DE to hold them up regardless of dipping below 5 scouts repeatedly. I've been on the committees and I've seen the metrics, the units in my council that do not meet year round have the lowest retention, are the smallest, have the least rank advancement, are not camping, etc ... literally every single laundry list red flag. Patrol campouts are official campouts. Patrol level activities are under the auspices of the Scouting America. What you're describing is a high level of other engagement. You're not shutting down and going off to something else for the summer, you're shifting gears to a different type of programming for a season period. -
So the support for JAMBO is not something the department of war can just withdraw; there is a process and it has to clear congress; the actual law is that the US military has to support JAMBO at least at the level of the previous JAMBOs support. As I understand it the only way out is if we are at war and well ... we just fought 2 wars while also supporting like 10 peacekeeping forces, while also fighting a good 2 dozen "low intensity" engagements; that whole time the military was able to support JAMBO. Not thinking JAMBO support goes away. Prohibiting scouts on military installations will go no-where. First of all just plain stupid and no way enforceable considering that the US military lets all kinds of youth groups onto installations. Secondly garrison commanders have an EXTREME amount of authority as to what they allow or do not allow to happen on their bases and there are just too many military facilities out there. Toss in any potential pivot of USO to support the scouts at the troops urging. Just not worried about this at all; it's like a made up micro managing issue. In my recruiting days Eagle Scouts came in as E4; it was only 1 extra piece of paperwork and no hair off our backs to get that done for the rare enlistee that was an Eagle Scout. If your Eagle Scout is being offered less than E4 you need to take them to a different recruiter that can be bothered to press print and then sign and date a piece of paper.
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