Southern Region
Sections, Lodges and local discussion
16 topics in this forum
-
- 31 replies
- 13k views
-
- 8 replies
- 3.1k views
-
- 12 replies
- 8.4k views
-
- 3 replies
- 3.7k views
-
- 7 replies
- 4.1k views
-
- 18 replies
- 7.2k views
-
- 13 replies
- 4.6k views
-
- 14 replies
- 4.4k views
-
- 8 replies
- 3.8k views
-
- 0 replies
- 2.9k views
-
- 3 replies
- 3.2k views
-
- 10 replies
- 4.1k views
-
- 0 replies
- 2.9k views
-
- 4 replies
- 3.3k views
-
- 3 replies
- 3k views
-
LATEST POSTS
-
By RememberSchiff · Posted
April 12, 2025: "West Point Scoutmasters' Council 61st Annual Camporee involved troops, both of boys and girls, from the Hudson Valley as well as other states. Lake Frederick is about seven miles from the West Point campus in the town of Woodbury, NY. The event, sponsored by the United States Military Academy at West Point and primarily run by West Point cadets, is known as one of the largest Scouting events in the country, drawing units from councils across the East Coast." Orange County Emergency Services posted on Facebook that it provided mutual aid to West Point for a Boy Scout camping event at Lake Frederick after a snowstorm. “As a precaution, some scouts were transported off premises to prevent or treat minor cold weather injuries,” Orange County said in a statement Saturday. West Point statement: “West Point and Orange County officials provided emergency services Saturday morning to the Annual Scout Camporee at Lake Frederick Recreation Area. Cold and snow affected the camping event organized by regional scout organizations. As of noon, eighteen campers had been transported to regional medical centers with potential minor cold weather injuries. West Point leaders are onsite to continue assessing conditions and coordinate assistance, including warming facilities. We will provide updates as necessary.” "Greater Hudson Valley Council based out of Fishkill asked that if anyone was injured or taken to the hospital, to submit an incident report." More at sources: https://www.timesunion.com/hudsonvalley/news/article/scouts-receive-medical-treatment-frigid-west-20273526.php https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Point_Camporee -
Is the US and international scouting community hosting WSJs on any of those sites and providing de facto political endorsement of those locations and activities by their presence? The answer is no. I'm not clear what line of argument you are attempting to follow. Is filling in of remaining US tidal flat habitat universally bad in an environmental sense? Yes. Is US scouting blatantly supporting those activities? No. Or at least I hope not. I haven't seen or heard of any US scout units participating in "Yay, we support destroying tidal habitat" service projects lately. But we did send a US contingent to Saemangeum and to a similarly problematic although smaller site in Japan in 2015. -
If you're going to point a finger point a finger at everybody that has and still is doing it. I live in a major metropolitan location here in America and right now, right here, on your watch, this city and many others are landfilling estuary. Captain conservation, make a list of all the bad actors. -
If that's the rationalization then I would say that in this as in so many things we have come to stand for nothing. We are -- or at least were -- an outdoors related conservation minded organization.
-
I did not and do not support Summit for many reasons but you can't compare the two. US Scouting at least attempted some environmental remediation of an existing damaged site where the damage started more than 100 years ago and largely concluded decades ago. Also, while the environmental damage was extreme locally, it was not a site of global importance for threated and endangered species. The South Korean site was a very high profile, very controversial, and very current example of extreme environmental destruction on a global scale and is everything the conservation minded scouting community should stand against. SBR is about 15 square miles; Saemangeum is about 160 square miles of intentional devastation. The scouting community allowed itself to be used by political interests attempting to legitimize what it had done. It's why those South Korean political interests poured so much money into showcasing the site and were so infuriated and incredulous when it fell apart. What I hope this does, however, is bring about a reconsideration of how, where, and why WSJ events are held in the future. From the US side, I think we need to be more judicious about whether we send contingents to WSJ. From the international side, as the report outlines, the world scouting community needs to take more interest and ownership in the safety and I would say suitability as far as alignment with our conservation credo when selecting sites.
-
-
Who's Online (See full list)