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Too bad the article didn’t say if what was sold was close to what was expected. Any one have any idea? What about properties now that a couple of years have passed since the evaluations were given and real value received. -
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This topic has strayed from the original post which was to identify and discuss Catholic diocese and units eliminating their scout programs. -
By InquisitiveScouter · Posted
I have no problem asking Eagle Scout candidates to demo Scout skills, or show some Scout knowledge. But, usually, it is a follow-on to a question about program and experiences. "Jenny, what are some things you liked about Scouting?" "I loved Pioneering Merit Badge, and learning to work with rope to build things." "That's great! Did you share some of these skills with the other Scouts in your Troop?" "Yes, I was our primary Troop Instructor for whipping, knots, and lashings!" "OK, right! I see on your Eagle Application that is one of the Positions of Responsibility you have cited for your rank requirements. Would you be willing to tie a bowline for me? Here's a piece of rope." "Sure!" <Ties the knot> etc etc etc It is not a test for the Scout, and, if the Scout cannot tie it, I would certainly not hold her up unless the candidate said something like "I never learned to tie a bowline." (Then it would be about not ever completing a requirement, versus not being able to remember how to do it.) It is a measure of the program and Troop culture, and not necessarily a measure of the Scout. "Its purpose is to determine the quality of the Scout’s experience and decide whether the requirements for the rank have been fulfilled." -
The Amish have a saying (they have lots of sayings): Show me what a man does with his hands that I might know his heart. One of my observations concerns the youth I encounter , both in and out of Scouting. Hand manipulation. Tying knots that HOLD. If one is concerned about a small thing like a shoe lace tied so it won't come undone, that person might also be concerned about other things, done right, so they won't come undone. The standards we set. "Oh, that's good enough." Is it? The idea that the Scout/youth can be taught, trusted, to do what is necessary, not just "good enough" (whatever that may mean). Kids in first grade that don't know their right from their left, over versus under.... I see it when Cubs try to fold the US flag in that triangular tradition. It takes time, and I often have to shoo the father away from the Cub who is really experimenting with his hands, seemingly for the first time.... The misguided EBoR that asks an Eagle candidate to tie a Bowline... If they can't tie it then, it does no good to ask them, and it is not a failure of the Scout, but of the Troop.
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