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    • The only other consideration would be wind. If it was going to be windy, like 20mph wind, that would make 17degrees feel like 0.  Also if the camping area is exposed, strong winds could make visibility poor with blowing snow. So besides temperature, there may have been other weather conditions to consider.  Btw, I am in NY so 17 degrees is a warm winter day. I recently returned from a trip where the temp was minus 12.
    • Yes.  There is a document in the lawsuit that proposes a significant reduction in councils, something like 100-150.   A small council that provides quality service will meet their finance goals. I know a council that is having membership issues, but they provide quality service to their members, and their financial goals are exceeded. Contrast to another council I know that has membership growth, but poor customer service. I cannot tell you how much they lost donations, but it is significant. One district's goal is 5.3% of what is was 20 years ago when adjusted for inflation.
    • While I agree it should have been no huge issue with proper prep and back up.  But I also know that today, common activities we did with little thought are now preexamined for ANY type of legal problems.  And, knowing it might get really cold could be one of those.  When we still had our camp, and we did Winter camp, prep was stressed, but we also had a fireplace in the dining hall and one of our out buildings and the dining hall was kept with a fire.  So contingent plans were in place, which were sensible and available.  Today we are in constant CYA mode which does considerable harm to simply learning to cope.  I have no solution for over reactions and fear of problems, as too many people refuse to take responsibility for anything that comes up, even if the situation had a way to deal with stuff.  Johnny or Susie came home with a cold and had a miserable time, so here is our medical bill.  And they will no longer participate.  It is sad, and dealing with it is frustrating, but each one that somehow survives such awful experience will mostly smile later and wonder why they did not do more.  We had annual flashlight wars after dark at the winter camps, and some units went to separate campsites and did their own program, but joined with the larger group as well.    
    • Our council recently held a winter camping experience for our Webelos/AOLs this past weekend. It's a patrol-led event with "frosty" fun. 2 nights before the event, an email was sent out saying that the overnight portion is cancelled due to the temperature (forecast was a low of 17 degrees). I wanted to get your thoughts on this as I feel that the overnight portion should not have been cancelled due to weather.  Units who properly prepared for this should've of been able to handle the cold weather, not to mention the money that was already spent to have the proper gear and meals. I think that the option to camp overnight could've been switched to optional for those units who did not prepare adequately.  What are your thoughts? What other information did I not consider to justify the decision by the council? 
    • I'd hope.  If the average salary cost is $50,000 (low considering we also have executives, directors, etc) and that a council probably needs at least three staff (probably way low), the per-scout council cost is at least $150.  I assume the majority of council finances happen thru donation or endowments.  Even then, council finances have never made sense to me.  I don't understand how small councils can stay in business.  
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