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  2. While this seems true, I am not convinced it is. On the other hand, I do perceive that many have turned inward, so to speak, and are tring to find the path that will allow the real Scouting to again bloom. But, I also am seeing far too many "giving up", or simply retreating to do what they feel will work, regardless of pressures from the outside. Scouting is best in my worn views when shared with a broader group of youth and adults. BP called it aa brotherhood, and it still is if we allow it. How to allow it with the issues we face is the greater struggle. I hope my great grand nephew, who has an Eagle father, and a Scouting believer as a GF will still experience the better possibilities. Would I live to see him also become an Eagle, or simply like his GF, a firm believer in the Spirit of Scouting. We have a gathering of Leaders locally at a breakfast on Saturdy coming, and the interhanges from the first two of these recently institued sharings has proven worthwhile. The Merit Badge events, for example have been over hauled and are getting better and more focused on the actual requirements. Also, they are nown being broken up to fewer badges, instead focusing on just a dozen or fewer. Still a long way to go, and I am still fighting with them to recognize the need to put our history forward, as well as sevice beyond the "big" events. Community is still silently behind the ideas of Scouting, but they too seem to be holding their brath to see if we can fight our way back. Time will tell, and hopefully I may hold on long enough to see the larger steps.
  3. At least in my area, parents are pressuring for Eagle. Units that do try and focus on adventure, fun, personal growth, etc instead of advancement do not get new Scouts as parents look elsewhere. Even my new troop is focusing on advancement. Yes it has. And be told by the rules lawyers you are "gate keeping," "adding to requirements," etc. @InquisitiveScouter sadly the leadership at the top is encouraging this, and they do not care what the old boots on the ground want who want to maintain standards want. Heck there is now a majority of volunteers support for them and their decline of standards.
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  5. Unfortunately, it is the new morality, which is "I got mine, the hell with the rules". I saw it when BSA started admitting girls, and Cubs were the "trial run", with supposedly separate-sex dens. Then supposedly separate-sex troops. I heard more than one "leader" on here and on FB admit that they had gone fully co-ed, because "that's what works best for us", while maintaining the charade on paper. I "retired" from Scouting in 2018 after having been a continuous member of the same Council since 1963 (Eagle 1970) as a Cub, Boy Scout, OA, Explorer, and adult leader in nearly all positions including District and Council Committees. When I let them know I would not be re-registering, the response was "ok, thanks" and thus it ended. I do not regret leaving as I feel the BSA has lost its way, as evidenced by the plummeting membership numbers.
  6. It does. And there is "chaos" and cheating all around. Be responsible for what you do. I have been asked many times to sign off something a Scout has not earned, or that I have not witnessed. I politely refuse. This is the best example we can give. And to admit our own mistakes and how we have tried to correct them. If you go looking for offenders, they are easy to find, but you will not win the day by identifying them, pointing them out, and imposing your will to make things right. In their hearts, they know they are cheating, being dishonest, or gaming the system. So do their parents. When their heart is right, they will ask you to show the way. Pray simply that God and our consciences will convict us, so that our hearts would be right, and that we will follow the truths of the Scout Oath and Law. "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
  7. This old guy feels as if it does matter and we should stop accepting these types of things and putting some honesty back into our units and setting a better example. Probably, and sadly, you are likely to be more correct than I am, and we seem to have lost sight of much of the best Character examples we have tried to exemplify over time. But, maybe not??
  8. I don't think either of these apply to this situation. If the narrative is correct that a 12 year old basically romper stomped a 5 year old; like how do you plan for that contingency? How is a total beat down that results in broken bones that occurs in a crowded room full of other youth, adult leaders, and parent partners even on the radar for non-jail based cub scout packs?
  9. I am not sure what your point is here. Putting yourself at risk by not following the advice of legal is always an option; but again go read the article, get informed, follow the rules or get burned. You're welcome for my warning.
  10. Sadly I do not think it matters. The focus has been on MBs and Eagle, no one focuses on fun, adventure, and personal growth. Besides, a lot of places are giving MBs away.
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  12. Good idea. Currently there are more options within the required list than when I was a scout, but not like before. Apparently these always fluctuate. Sadly what is not fluctuating is the continued erosion of the mB part of the program by summer camps, "universities" and troop only counselors. Scouts are less and less benefiting from the mB process by having the badge be the sole aim.
  13. One of the things that has I have often felt as a leader is that the concept of breadth in merit badge options should be reinstated. IN the fifties and sixties we had the required badges of the time, but also a "selection" from a number of categories which broadened the picture. It was similar to the once required college breadth for graduation that included classes from the less common areas, including art and music. That, in my opinion, leads to a bit more depth of knowledge and the world in general. What might be the thoughts on this being reinstated in a more modern manner?
  14. This is a good point. For those of us at the far end of the org of a large corporation, legal requirements are just that, requirements. I was on a church board with someone who was pretty high up in a large org. When we said that legal said we shouldn't have wine at a church auction, some of were like that is settle, legal has spoken. This person made it clear "that is the advice from legal, but legal doesn't set the business direction". That was an eye opener for me when you are at the level of a company that sets the direction which may or may not align with legal.
  15. I agree nothing is totally safe. But if you offered an event you are expected to show due care in the event. And attendie's understand the risks
  16. Absolute safety is a mirage. Sometimes things just happen, even with every precaution. And every effort to find perfection will fail, no matter what. And in this country, the legal vultures constantly circle because we let them.
  17. "Little Libraries" are a very valued community project, often done as Eagle Service Projects. As to the idea of making them somewhat "Nature", "Outdoor Literacy" oriented, that too has been done and is a worthy goal. I have known of at least three Little Libraries done as either part of an Eagle Project or the Project itself. One was a nicely done one that involved TWO Little Libraries at two separate State Parks, the nature books specifically elicited and donated for them. https://littlefreelibrary.org/ https://www.facebook.com/Littlelibraries/
  18. When my son was 8, he broke his arm in a playground fall that occurred while he was participating in a day camp run by a well-known community organization. He fell just 2 feet but landed on his arm awkwardly. Our health insurance company wanted every detail about the situation so they could prove that << well-known community organization >> was liable and avoid playing the claim. It got to the point where we considered paying the $4,000 ER bill out of pocket because we didn't want to bring harm to the organization (who also provides us with reliable after-school childcare during the school year). They eventually dropped their attempt, but our deductible is pretty high, and we wound up covering the entire bill anyway. Given the extent of our troubles for a standard playground fall, I can't imagine the insurance nightmare this situation will be with a 12-year-old aggressor, a leader out vaping, and a wounded national organization that's just a walking claim-paying machine.
  19. You should introduce them to Boris Badinov and Natasha.
  20. I think we're going to find out who's correct. I totally see your argument, and in the past that line of thinking has been 100% accurate; however, the way charters, membership agreements, council charters, bylaws, etc ... are structured versus before has compartmentalized the risk away from national. They are getting horrible PR right now, the damage is done [in regards to image].
  21. When you go somewhere with limited or no power. I know a scouting family that has an off the grid(ish) cabin and they don't allow their kids on electronics while there; I am not exactly sure what the source of power is but they don't let the kids drain it with their phones/tablets/whatever. Last year they borrowed pamphlets from me since their kids wouldn't have enough power to read the whole thing(s) digitally.
  22. I really wonder why anyone would still go to the Scout Shop and buy the printed versions when they are available to download at no cost.
  23. Okay. I just saw the following. New requirements online and QR codes to access/ Scout shops to get new MB pamphlet inventory. I always think about the carrying cost. Ouch. https://www.scouting.org/program-updates/important-update-merit-badge-requirements-moving-online/
  24. Maybe, but Hawai'i is just one example of multiple fatal or serious incidents in recent years that have been settled out of court and public view. Higher profile ones make national press, but we all know of local ones that don't. I'm not exactly sure what point you are trying to make, but if it is that you think National will hang local volunteers and councils out to dry in public, then what I am saying is that that is unlikely... ... And this is why I think it's unlikely. This is exactly the kind of thing the scouting organization does not want examined publicly in a court room and to become part of the public record: That despite claims of comprehensive safety programs, a child was nearly beaten to death with multiple adults in the room, including both parents. Scouting repeatedly touts its much vaunted safety programs but this happened to a child playing in a building in sight of adults while participating in scouting. In the face of that, it's almost irrelevant what the cub master was doing or where he or she was.
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    • While this seems true, I am not convinced it is.  On the other hand, I do perceive that many have turned inward, so to speak, and are tring to find the path that will allow the real Scouting to again bloom.  But, I also am seeing far too many "giving up", or simply retreating to do what they feel will work, regardless of pressures from the outside.  Scouting is best in my worn views when shared with a broader group of youth and adults.  BP called it aa brotherhood, and it still is if we allow it.  How to allow it with the issues we face is the greater struggle.  I hope my great grand nephew, who has an Eagle father, and a Scouting believer as a GF will still experience the better possibilities.  Would I live to see him also become an Eagle, or simply like his GF, a firm believer in the Spirit of Scouting.   We have a gathering of Leaders locally at a breakfast on Saturdy coming, and the interhanges from the first two of these recently institued sharings has proven worthwhile.  The Merit Badge events, for example have been over hauled and are getting better and more focused on the actual requirements.  Also, they are nown being broken up to fewer badges, instead focusing on just a dozen or fewer.  Still a long way to go, and I am still fighting with them to recognize the need to put our history forward, as well as sevice beyond the "big" events.  Community is still silently behind the ideas of Scouting, but they too seem to be holding their brath to see if we can fight our way back.  Time will tell, and hopefully I may hold on long enough to see the larger steps.  
    • At least in my area, parents are pressuring for Eagle. Units that do try and focus on adventure, fun, personal growth, etc instead of advancement do not get new Scouts as parents look elsewhere. Even my new troop is focusing on advancement.   Yes it has.   And be told by the rules lawyers you are "gate keeping," "adding to requirements," etc. @InquisitiveScouter sadly the leadership at the top is encouraging this, and they do not care what the old boots on the ground want who want to maintain standards want. Heck there is now a majority of volunteers support for them and their decline of standards.
    • Unfortunately, it is the new morality, which is "I got mine, the hell with the rules".  I saw it when BSA started admitting girls, and Cubs were the "trial run", with supposedly separate-sex dens.  Then supposedly separate-sex troops.  I heard more than one "leader" on here and on FB admit that they had gone fully co-ed, because "that's what works best for us", while maintaining the charade on paper.  I "retired" from Scouting in 2018 after having been a continuous member of the same Council since 1963 (Eagle 1970) as a Cub, Boy Scout, OA, Explorer, and adult leader in nearly all positions including District and Council Committees.  When I let them know I would not be re-registering, the response was "ok, thanks" and thus it ended.  I do not regret leaving as I feel the BSA has lost its way, as evidenced by the plummeting membership numbers. 
    • It does.  And there is "chaos" and cheating all around.  Be responsible for what you do.  I have been asked many times to sign off something a Scout has not earned, or that I have not witnessed.  I politely refuse. This is the best example we can give.  And to admit our own mistakes and how we have tried to correct them. If you go looking for offenders, they are easy to find, but you will not win the day by identifying them, pointing them out, and imposing your will to make things right.  In their hearts, they know they are cheating, being dishonest, or gaming the system.  So do their parents. When their heart is right, they will ask you to show the way. Pray simply that God and our consciences will convict us, so that our hearts would be right, and that we will follow the truths of the Scout Oath and Law. "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.  Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."  
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