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    • The new rule is also buddies should be no more than 3 years apart in age which also complicates mixed age patrols. 
    • The adults are the danger, if you push too hard, they will all turn on you. 
    • I heard a generic phrase along this line that a large number of adults can't pass the physical and that a large number of "trail guides" have been getting used to keep contingents on the trail down at Philmont.  I think the solution to this problem is if you show up and fail the physical you get sent home. Right now if you fail the physical my understanding is that they put your butt up in a cabin somewhere and you chill for a week while your scouts go beat the trail. 
    • I agree with you completely. If it helps, you can truthfully say that Arrows of Light do what what the SM suggested. I asked my AOLs to complete assembling a first-aid kit as homework for this reason, but the suggested activity from the program for that requirement is to do what the SM suggested. Presumably you should do more for Tenderfoot than AOL.
    • Three adults on "Treks" at Philmont:  https://www.philmontscoutranch.org/treks/trekrequirements/ "Each Philmont expedition or group must have at least three BSA registered adult advisers for Scout groups. Three advisers must be at least 21 years of age. There must be a registered female adult leader over 21 in every unit serving females. Each crew is required to have a majority of youth participants, and the maximum number of adults (over 21) is four per crew. Participants 18 through 20 years of age may be counted as youth or adult crew members. " But only two on "Crews":  https://www.philmontscoutranch.org/treks/trekrequirements/crewrequirements/ Would someone please elaborate on the difference?? Also, same page, says WFA/CPR can bet met by youth: "Philmont requires that each crew have three participants who have completed Wilderness First Aid and three participants with CPR training. Current certification cards must be uploaded int the Gateway to verify this requirement. With three Wilderness First Aiders and three CPR trained members on the trek, the crew will be better able to handle emergencies. This requirement can be met by youth and/or adult participants."
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