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  2. As stated above, your District is where the physical address of the CO is located. We had a situation where we got a new CO, which was physically in a different city and district, by about 100 feet. The SE made an exception for us, since the IH lived within our old district.
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  4. No idea what the BSA system allows.... but where do you want to be registered? I'd pursue that District. There may not be much practical difference to your District affiliation. DE support could vary between Districts, but often there is little difference between Districts. For training, events, etc... most Districts welcome participation from other Districts' Units. I'm in an area where 3 States and 5 Councils are close to each other. Not too long ago when I was a District Commissioner we had a Unit who was registered in Council A, CO was in Council B, usual meeting place was i
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  6. The unit is in District A, the location of your CO. The CO owns the unit, regardless of where it meets. The DE for District A supports. At recharter, same as above... DE for District A. No, no National policy... the only thing remotely covering is that the council has geographic boundaries... and CO's located in those boundaries are chartered within that council. The council gets to determine its own geographic or functional boundaries for its districts.
  7. Not certain that this is in the right thread, but here goes: Let's say a scout unit's chartering organization is located in District A, but it meets in District B. Questions include: - what district is the unit a part of? - which district executive supports that unit? - at the time of recharter, is the unit supported by the staff of District A or District B? Finally, does National have any policy on this? The questions arise due to adjustment of district boundaries; among other things, some units believe they will no longer be able to participate in activities co
  8. @Newschoolscoutdad, welcome! That is a great idea! But, since you would still be soliciting a donation, just ask for council approval... Fill out the BSA Fundraising Application and send it in. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34427.pdf Attach a short letter explaining what it is you want to do, and how you want to do it. Give a ballpark figure for the value of the equipment you'll be asking for. Set an end date for seeking the donations, and stick to it. (You can take down that entry on Facebook or other platforms, right?) Councils approve GoFundMe's for E
  9. My apologies for not understanding This is a challenging time for young people. Politics and cultural extremisms are driving everyone to pick a side with no gray area. Life was simple when I was a scout, it was a little more complicated when I was leader, but nothing like now. My high school teacher son is very frustrated. He had a student commit suicide a few months ago. One of three in the past few years. The problem from his perspective is social media. Kids today get all their identity from social media and that puts them in a very volatile place to find themselves. One day socia
  10. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I wasn't saying that the latest traditional gender role is a threat. I was pointing to how wide the agreement that aggression and violence towards women (because women are a subset of people) is bad is. We agree on that even if we disagree on the accuracy of other feminist ideas and policies. And this agreement is what's relevant for this discussion. Feminist analysis of gender roles is out of scope for this discussion, but there is plenty elsewhere to read on the subject if you're interested. As far as the PWD podium goes, that leader made sure to say it out of ea
  11. I know this is a Topic discussed a lot in a way. I understand going to businesses to ask for donation can effect the council asking for donations. My question is more for non businesses. As troops would like to upgrade or replace troop equipment in their trailer that only belongs to the troop why could they not put out on Facebook or at events that they are looking for these items and if someone personally would donate them, Would that be looked down upon if it is not does anyone have suggestions. I ask this question because my sons troop is in a small community. Doing pancake breakfast
  12. Right. Signs can be moved. Schedules can be adjusted. Separate times scheduled and posted for youth/adult and female/male is good practice. That the troop was unable to accommodate male troop camping next to them speaks volumes of their leadership.
  13. Does not require separate facilities... G2SS is quite clear... Separate shower and latrine facilities should be provided for male and female adults as well as for male and female youth. If separate facilities are not available, separate times should be scheduled and posted. Should does not mean must.
  14. I will make an assumption that the troop always travels with these signs, so that the girls troop has separate facilities from the adult male leadership, as YPT requires. I am surprised that camp staff couldn't find compromise acceptable for both troops. I advise book a different campsite. Or find another camp altogether.
  15. "Encounter a Cougar while hiking ...what would your scouts do?" Hopefully not say "here kitty, kitty".
  16. I"m sure this camp falls under a council. How about bringing it up to the council board. Just not going is good for your unit, but leaves the same problem that would fill your troop's week. How about identifying the troop to council and camp that took over the latrine. I'm more of the thinking Scouts can be courteous, but not a weak victim and just take it on the chin. Standing up for yourself and others is scout like too...brave? And to those leaders on the site (I hope they contribute) that condone taking over the latrine, you allowed Scouts to show an ugly side of shared camping and
  17. Follow YP guidelines, live the meaning of Scout Spirit, and let the youth be youth as they figure it out. We continue to try to make a mountain, and Scouting is only one more opportunity to find a path. Balance and that shady concept, common sense.
  18. I'm curious, what is the latest traditional male gender role that is considered a threat? I'm one of those people who believe mixing females into the patrols puts the males at a disadvantage for personal growth, and possibly some harm by the adults. So, I struggle with the idea that girls are the ones at risk. I've seen way too much overhype on this forum to not be concerned for the boys. One poster was bragging just the other day about all the girl cubs on the podium after the derby races. What was the point of the statement? Were boys also on the podium? We don't know, but we can imagin
  19. Your sign idea is solid, and the other troop's behavior was not. That's not at all acceptable. First dibs on the big shower is not scout-like at all! And I'm with Eagledad, how can a troop override the camp leadership? Camp leadership needs to fix this for you. I'm also struck by that they had their own signs, which means they planned it. And it wasn't just that they hogged the good shower and sink, they did so by reference to gender. I can't know for a fact, but it smells like benevolent sexism, like they thought that they deserve the nice facilities because it's men's duty to sacrifice
  20. Thanks for taking the time to explain! I understand that you're moving on. No problem. I did want to clear something up, though, for everyone still here, that seems to have been missed. This was a family pack that, unbeknownst to me when we joined, was in the family den pilot with written explicit permission to have both girls and boys together in dens. The relevant agreement bullet is Beginning with the 2022-23 program year pilot packs may form Lion (Kindergarten), Tiger (1st Grade), Wolf (2nd Grade), Bear (3rd Grade), and Webelos (4th Grade Only) dens with boys and girls in
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  22. AwakeEnergy: I grant that your Pack clearly violated a Scout is Obedient. I remember learning something to the effect of "A Scout is obedient. A scout follows the rules of his family, school, troop, community, and country. If he deems a rule to be unfair or unjust, he tries to have them changed in orderly fashion rather than disobeying them." So, yes, your Pack violated Obedient--perhaps with sound rationale, but a violation nonetheless. Maybe we can add that to the list of the things the BSA should crack down on! I chose to emphasize Scout is Trustworthy because the ease at which people
  23. Few, if any World groups would face what the BSA has and does. Our legal system is a mess, and totally illogical in many instances. Add on the "sympathetic jury" awards, and judges that will not use their legal knowledge to over ride pie in the sky monetary damages, and it is no wonder we have issues. JMO of course. Balance, as I continue to suggest, is the key.
  24. They could be less prone, but the data is spotty (criminology is hard). It could be that CSA is more frequent among European youth, but here’s a report that shows how widely risk estimates vary in Nordic countries https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10538712.2015.1108944. Here is the most recent examination of CSA from a nation wide youth survey in the US https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/su/su7201a8.htm when this year’s data are available (probably by next year), I’ll try to plot out the responses to abuse-related questions for us all. At the moment Scouts UK is on the as
  25. I'm trying to point to that basic feminist values are not opposed to scouting values, including therefore BSA values, by asking the reader to really take in what RememberSchiff posted an excerpt from. Of course you recoil from gender-based violence because it is mid-evil, and it's not just you and me who think so. Having that gut reaction of NO! is the sign that this is outside the Overton window for whatever society you're part of. Of course WOSM is joining the UN in trying to get gender-based violence to stop, and to move the world closer to having gender equality, because it's totally the r
  26. I honestly do not see what's so horrible about having two dens share a meeting for pragmatic reasons. It was allowed for different ages already, and multiple ages could even be in the same den. All for pragmatic reasons I imagine. Like you say, InquisitiveScouter, you still have to apply some judgement and common sense. I don't see how that's against either the Scout Law or Oath, and definitely not that's a much worse rule-bending or breaking than many other such situations discussed here on the forum previously. Sure, some pragmatic rule-bending or breaking can be dangerous, but it doesn't ne
  27. We follow a similar process to @InquisitiveScouter's. SM and CC conference ahead of annual planning, align on any fundamental shifts in year-to-year policies (similar to IS's notes: We have standing expectation of 1 outing per month, 1 in-state / 1 out-of-state summer camp, and certain other activities we pre-commit to each year like helping with pack crossover weekend, etc.) This seed the "parameters" for annual planning. SM and PLC conduct annual planning. CC is invited to participate. We review school, council, district, and OA calendars so we can participate and avoid
  28. I found self-organizing was key. Not right away but just ahead of the next elections we had "patrol re-org night". SPL announced "You are all released from your patrols!" They were given 30 minutes to "congeal" into new patrols. It was interesting. We started with 5 Patrols, we ended with 5 Patrols. Noone specified max/min Patrol size nor number of patrols - we just let it happen. I was worried about this as we have 5 patrol kits... so as much as I love the Patrol Method - sometimes practical considerations do play a part. As it turned out, the politics and awkwardness involved wi
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    • As stated above, your District is where the physical address of the CO is located.  We had a situation where we got a new CO, which was physically in a different city and district, by about 100 feet.  The SE made an exception for us, since the IH lived within our old district.
    • No idea what the BSA system allows.... but where do you want to be registered?  I'd  pursue that District. There may not be much practical difference to your District affiliation.  DE support could vary between Districts, but often there is little difference between Districts.  For training, events, etc... most Districts welcome participation from other Districts' Units. I'm in an area where 3 States and 5 Councils are close to each other.  Not too long ago when I was a District Commissioner we had a Unit who was registered in Council A, CO was in Council B, usual meeting place was in Council C and they occasionally had meetings in Council D. I vaguely recall they were registered in Council A because many (30-40?) years prior their CO and meeting place were in A.    
    • The unit is in District A, the location of your CO.  The CO owns the unit, regardless of where it meets. The DE for District A supports. At recharter, same as above... DE for District A. No, no National policy... the only thing remotely covering is that the council has geographic boundaries... and CO's located in those boundaries are chartered within that council. The council gets to determine its own geographic or functional boundaries for its districts.
    • Not certain that this is in the right thread, but here goes: Let's say a scout unit's chartering organization is located in District A, but it meets in District B. Questions include: - what district is the unit a part of? - which district executive supports that unit? - at the time of recharter, is the unit supported by the staff of District A or District B? Finally, does National have any policy on this?  The questions arise due to adjustment of district boundaries; among other things, some units believe they will no longer be able to participate in activities conducted by their former district, because of the way the lines were drawn. Thoughts? Questions? Thanks in advance for your input.
    • @Newschoolscoutdad, welcome! That is a great idea!  But, since you would still be soliciting a donation, just ask for council approval... Fill out the BSA Fundraising Application and send it in.  https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34427.pdf Attach a short letter explaining what it is you want to do, and how you want to do it.  Give a ballpark figure for the value of the equipment you'll be asking for.  Set an end date for seeking the donations, and stick to it.  (You can take down that entry on Facebook or other platforms, right?) Councils approve GoFundMe's for Eagle Projects all the time.  I don't see this as being much different.  You never get what you don't ask for, so ASK FOR IT! And let us know what your council says! Although... reading the application a bit more, it does say "At no time are units permitted to solicit contributions for unit programs."  So, that might be a hard "No."    
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