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John the Xcar

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    Yakima, WA
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    Outdoors with a pack on and an eye on the horizon, and feet taking me there
  1. The LDS church has made it quite clear they are working on a program that will be able to followed by all 12-13 year old young men in the church and since scouts is not universal, at some point the church will step away from all scouting programs. As for an award at the end of a journey, that is fairly universal to just about everything. Diplomas are one example and there are innumerable others as well. I am hopeful that as this settles out that the LDS church still sponsors 1 or 2 troops per stake, for those that are truly invested in scouting.
  2. I have spent almost all of the last 27 years working with every aspect of LDS scouting. Cubmaster, venture crew adviser, scout master, COR, along with a few positions in the council at various points thrown in. Unlike many LDS scout leaders I did not grow up in Scouts. My family would not allow me to join. I started looking to this site for more information when my church recently announced they were dropping the varsity and venture programs in 2018. Reading between the lines it seems likely by 2019 or thereabouts my church will disassociate with scouts altogether. This saddens me. I
  3. I think there are enough rules/guidelines in BSA for the program to make any decision you want. Given that I have some questions: 1) is she an ACTUAL distraction? 2) what do the boys say? 3) what guidelines does you CO have? 4) has anyone proposed to the father that she does not go? 5) what happens if the CO says she is no longer welcome. 6) has her attendance kept any of the scouts from the stated goals of the outing? 7) what does the girl say, if anything. As a SM I would follow the direction of the CO. As an LDS troop that means boys only. However, I always let the boys k ow a
  4. MattR ... I am giving serious thought to sponsoring a troop if my church stops sponsoring BSA completely. However it is almost guaranteed that the LDS church will continue through at least the end of 2018, so that decision is bit in the future. I would guess any formal announcement would not occur until at least next year May. Latin Scot: I was the cubmaster in my ward until about 18 months ago. I was called after the ward had gone through 3 scoutmasters and 4 Venture Crew Advisers in 3 years and only one single campout during that time as well. There are far more 'technically savvy
  5. So far we have not had any direction other than what the original statement from our church and the associated LDS website new program outlines (which have, for the most part, been available for a while now). As the scoutmaster in our Ward I am meeting with every young man and their parents from 12 to 17 to ascertain their interest in 3 things: 1) their overall interest in Scouting 2) their personal and family interest in rank advancement 3) realistic level in personal/family commitment in achieving those ends. I have always believed that advancement has to be Scout and Family d
  6. Neal, I guessed that but having zero experience with a non-LDS troop I can't know that for sure. I also stated in point 1 before that adult leaders are volunteer and that is accurate but that does not mean that they initiate that, it means they are asked by their ward leaders to accept the 'calling'. So in many cases the adult leaders are people that would never on their own volunteer for a BSA leader role. It is difficult enough to get people to get trained when the volunteering is their own idea much less when their personal experience did not lend itself to Scouts.
  7. I am an LDS scoutmaster and have been involved as an adult leader since the early 90s in LDS BSA programs. I have been a Venture Adviser for over 10 years of that time. A cubmaster for about 3 years, a COR, and numerous other positions at the unit and at Council level as well. I do not speak for the LDS church on This issue but think I can shed some light on some of the problems faced with engaging the BSA programs with LDS youth. 1) all adult roles in our wards (congregations) are volunteer. 2) virtually every role is filled with someone that has never done that before so THEY
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