Posted 07 March 2008 - 01:15 PM
I think you said it best - "(particularly one which our early American ancestors worked so hard to destroy)" This is one important reason to incorporate their traditions. We have a strong Shoshone and Temok tribes in our town, and from speaking to them they have expressed that they are happy that someone remembers, that we don't dwell on the our people hurt your people, but instead we work on re-building those friendships of some of our ansestors. As long as we stay in contact and ask for their experience and insight we are working on making a better world for our boys.
On the other hand, if we go about these ceremonies without knowledgeable people, without requard to local tribes, and without teaching our boys that "Yes, Indians do still exist" it becomes that imaginary world that is Knights in Shining Armor, Pirate good guys, etc. By no means am I saying lecture the boys, but I am saying to involve them in the planning, have local tribes come to pack meetings and tell stories, invite them to your Blue & Gold and Crossover Ceremonies, become friends.
I like the comment about Scouts being a great program until the adults get involved. It is sad but typically true. We as adults are there to be positive role-models that is it! We cannot expect our boys to respect a culture if we do not also. And being afraid of offending someone that is part of something that you are not, is not the way to go about it. Communication is the key! Get ahold of those people ask them questions, find out their feeling on it, and share that information with your boy. Our goal should be to teach the boys that responsibility is fun!
I am so sick of hearing about our Countries traditions being axed because some uninvolved person felt it was offensive.
By no means am I trying to bash you Burnside, I feel you did the right thing, you talked to someone about it, then you talked to more knowledgeable people about it, and from the sounds of your posts your opinion has changed. I wish more people did that.