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Apparently they are not allowing commentary on the article. I Asked why are posting articles on family camping with 11-16 year olds, what that is Scout aged youth and should be doing Patrol camping. I also stated that the article is in the wrong journal since all the information is basic BALOO level info, and most packs I know of do an intro to camping for their new families.

 

EDITED: This really concerns me because it appears that BSA IS trying to promote family camping now. I have seen, and am unfortunatley seeing now, what family camping does to troops and patrols.

 

 

From reading the article, it appears that it is clearly about family camping with no association or commentary on scouts. I didn't find any mention of troops, packs or dens and in fact, the article makes many comments about renting equipment, making reservations, etc - all things a scout organization would not have to do, nor would a family have to do that decided to attend a scout camping event.

 

I think you may be making way too much of that article. I don't see how it is in any way a reflection of how scouts may or may not be changing in the future.

 

 

If this was an article about cooking and eating at home as a family with no mention of scouts, I would not see it as a negative commentary on patrol cooking. This is simply an article that encourages families to camp as a family, on their own, irrespective of or in addition to any scout camping the scout already does.

 

Edit: fixed a typo.

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And I detest the constant implication by some people that those who advocate for coed scouting "don't care about the boys", or "hate the program" or are "pandering to some external pressure group" or

Throughout this discussion, many people have cast the position on the other side as morally challenged. If you say "you know that this will hurt the boys but want to do it anyway", that is an implicat

Please many of us understand the frustration and disappointment . Let's see how many times the BSA program has become not the program I signed up for and ...   1972 - The Improved Scouting Program

And look at Scouting Magazine's topic? Coincidence?

 

https://scoutingmagazine.org/2017/08/first-timers-guide-camping-whole-family/

Over all I didn't think the article was that bad, though I agree with @@RememberSchiff about the whole hardware and software nonsense. And what is wrong with encouraging people to go family camping? The article didn't mention scout camping at all. I think if more families had experience camping, then we would have fewer scout parents freaking out about their "little angles" going into the woods and more potential leaders with camping experience.

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The Y-M-C-A song keeps going through my mind. When I was a District Membership Chair 18 years ago, Counsel was working with all the membership chairs to recruit more high school age youth in the program for "after school" activities. I forget the name of that program, but it didn't go well. This sure sounds familiar. 

 

Another aspect of this I'm curious about is the religious sponsorships. Originally for the Methodist, the Boy Scout program was sponsored by the men's division of the church. I wonder what they are thinking.

 

Along with that, scouts are presently not welcome in schools as a result of the atheist membership restriction. The older youth program I was talking about didn't have the restriction, so the BSA was working with the High Schools to get them more involved for "after school" activities.

 

I have said for a long long time on this forum that the BSA will have to put less emphasis on the religious part of the program to maintain a liberal progressive direction. I know first hand that this was a set goal by gay activist back in the early 90's. Many youth scout programs around the world have taken god (or God) out of their program completely.

 

Family! Of course family, like the YMCA family.

 

On the plus side, maybe the BSA will add work out rooms to their camps so families can work on their physical fitness after work like the YMCA. Might be a good approach for attracting overweight Familyscoutmasters.

 

I wonder what a Familyscoutmaster patch looks like. :unsure:

 

Barry

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