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#1 ALongWalk

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Posted 15 July 2017 - 11:39 AM

Any suggestions on how much cash a scout should take to the Jamboree? I am sure the son couldand would spend a ton if he were allowed but....

I want him to be able to purchase some keepsakes and such but nothing too extravagant. Thanks.
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#2 qwazse

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Posted 15 July 2017 - 03:08 PM

Whatever he's earned this summer.
Minus his tithe to the Lord's work. (Or fourtieth if you are Muslim, but then you'd still probably be shelling the difference out to beggars and such.)
Minus any taxes he may owe.
Minus any foreseeable expenses once he returns home before he can get back to gainful employment.
Minus planned deposits to the rainy day fund.
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#3 Eagle94-A1

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Posted 15 July 2017 - 03:30 PM

Agree, how much has he earned?  When I went to jambo in 89, I used the money I made from cutting grass.


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Posted 15 July 2017 - 03:50 PM

I started working at age 11 doing the mowing, shoveliing, etc. Then on to paper route and by the time I was old enough to qualify for any Jamboree, I was washing windows at the library.  I budged my funds, had plenty in the bank did my own taxes, contributed to my church and my parents would never have asked this question.  They knew I knew how much money I had to spend at a Jambo or any other event I wanted to go to..


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Posted 15 July 2017 - 07:29 PM

I want him to be able to purchase some keepsakes and such but nothing too extravagant.


I interpret that as $50.00.

Now whether that is money you give him or money he has earned is entirely up to the two of you.
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#6 ALongWalk

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 04:01 AM

He will use money he earned working at Summer Csmp.

Should have known better than to,ask here.

Edited by ALongWalk, 16 July 2017 - 04:02 AM.

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#7 qwazse

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 07:40 AM

I'm sorry, @ALongWalk, but I've lectured my kids that no house in this country is worth more than $150K. Anything more than that, and you're either paying for footage your family doesn't need, woods or farm someone else has ravaged, or the company of strangers who you don't really like.
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#8 Stosh

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 07:45 AM

He will use money he earned working at Summer Csmp.

Should have known better than to,ask here.

 

:)  There are very few things on this forum that any of us can all agree on, but in this situation, any life lessons on taking on one's own responsibility to mature and develop character seems to be unanimous.  In this case, one needs to learn from an early age to understand the value of limited financial resources.  It's a lesson that will challenge him throughout his life.  This is a very safe way to start that process.  If one wants something, save up and budget for it in plans. 

 

I'm sure he'll do fine and when it comes to souvenirs, if he has unlimited "dad's" money, it won't be evaluated as to the real cost to one's own pocketbook.  If dad handed me $50 it spends a lot differently than if I had to mow a few neighborhood yards in the hot sun $50.  

 

Learning to tie the different knots might have a bit of value to your son in his adult life, but there won't be a day that the lessons in finance come into play.

 

Best of luck to your son's adventure at Jambo, it's going to be a fantastic opportunity for his scouting career!


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 07:48 AM

I'm sorry, @ALongWalk, but I've lectured my kids that no house in this country is worth more than $150K. Anything more than that, and you're either paying for footage your family doesn't need, woods or farm someone else has ravaged, or the company of strangers who you don't really like.

 

Aw, come on now.  I paid less than $150k for my 9 acre hobby farm and with 8 acres of woods for hunting, flower beds for the wife 20' in all directions of the house, and an acre of garden space, 3 bedroom house, the Mrs. and I can feel the cramp.  :)


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#10 Eagle94-A1

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 10:22 AM

Good for him. He needs to decide how much he wants to bring. Hopefully he pre-ordered a bunch of souvineers so he won't need a bunch of money. If he didn't order in advance, I'd have him look in the catalog, find what he wants, then bring a little extra.


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#11 qwazse

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:02 PM

Actually, what I would do regarding souvenirs:
Give your son any old patches and neckers that you have. (They don't necessarily have to be scouting related, if they look good and represent something historic about your area.) Ask him to come back with a completely different collection.

Heck, I've had scouts at AP Hill trade uniforms and doughnuts with servicemen for their digital cammo.
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#12 Stosh

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:09 PM

That's how I got my historic AOL patch for my 1960's uniform, traded for it at the Centennial Jamob.


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:18 PM

By the way one can get a bit creative with the trading.  Boys trade with boys, Adults trade with adults.  I wore a reproduction 1910 uniform with all the correct buttons and collar brass and Smoky hat with correct SM pin on it.  My SPL wore a 1960's uniform with all the correct patches, mule-eared pocket pants and campaign hat.  Any boy in full uniform that wanted a pitcture of 1910-1960-2010 could pose with us for a patch.  :)  My SPL took in a lot of patches to trade elsewhere for what he wanted. 

 

Surprisingly, not many scouts were in uniform, but when they found out what we were doing, they found theirs really quickly.


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#14 Eagle94-A1

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 01:59 PM

Stosh’s story reminds me of what some friends did when they went as well as what I did.

 

Friends got a bunch of the sample sized (either .5 ounces or 1 ounce) Tabasco Sauce bottles. They then hot glued 1” safety pins to the bottles for instant hat pins. They were a “hot” commodity. ;)

 

When I went, I made a bunch of neckerchief slides using clothesline and Turk’s Head Knots. While not as hot as the Tabasco Sauce pins (pun intended again J ) I got some very good trades, especially with the Japanese who were attending.


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Posted 16 July 2017 - 02:20 PM

Good for him. He needs to decide how much he wants to bring. Hopefully he pre-ordered a bunch of souvineers so he won't need a bunch of money. If he didn't order in advance, I'd have him look in the catalog, find what he wants, then bring a little extra.

He has not preordered anything but taking a look at the catalog to get an idea is a great idea........ thanks. We just don't have any idea what to expect as far as what they will have for sale and the set-up. He didn't earn much working at scout camp and some of those funds are earmarked for other things so he is going to need to choose wisely and carefully.

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Posted 16 July 2017 - 04:42 PM

From my perspective, having worked the food concession register in 2010 at I think was D not too far from the water activities, way too many scouts appeared to not have a good grasp of financial restraint.  Most had the bracelets which were reloadable at various locations, and others simply large amounts of cash it seemed.  But, near the end, many were going without or begging for loans from those that seemed to have unlimited resources.

 

When I went as a 16 year old in 1960, I had to earn all but the cost of the uniforms, which was about $50 at the time.  I had a job before school and I spent a year beating the bushes for odd jobs to earn enough to attend and have spending money.  

 

As an ASM in 1985, as well as from my youth experience, it seems to me that those scouts that did have to earn their way were far more appreciative of the experience in most regards.

 

Ultimately, it is what you as a family decide is the best approach.  Hopefully it will not be open ended like those that kept adding money to the bracelets.  To me that was a mistake.


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#17 dedkad

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 12:07 AM

I gave my son $30 a day to spend. Probably way too much, but I really had no idea how much he'd need and some of the merchandise in the catalog looked pricey.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:33 AM

Our council had patches, neckers, tshirts and hats. That's enough for me. I'll get a necker from the catalog.
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#19 walk in the woods

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:44 AM

$10-$15/day is more than enough walking around money for supplementing the bag lunches, odds and ends, etc.  Definitely order keepsakes from the catalog if at all possible.  Let FedEx ship to you vs. him trying to schlep it home or get it shipped from there.  


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#20 fred johnson

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 12:02 PM

I gave my son $30 a day to spend. Probably way too much, but I really had no idea how much he'd need and some of the merchandise in the catalog looked pricey.

 

I did similar when my son sent.  It effectively was $200 to $250 for the trip.

 

My general rule ... Most scouts spend what scouts have.  Give him $10 and he'll spend $10.  Give him $200 and he'll spend $200.  He won't starve, meals are covered.  Same with lodging and travel.  

 

Of course this is my "general" rule.  I have a few kids who if they have $200 on them, they will go home with $200.  I have some kids if you send them with $200, they will go home owing people money. 


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