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#21 qwazse

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 02:49 PM

@scoutldr, it's S-T-2-1 now.  :)

S2FC for "Scout to First Class", or

T2FC for "Trail to First Class" if you want to keep the old shorthand under a different meaning.

 

I outright banned participation. (Okay, not exactly banned. Strongly emphasized that no 1st year had to attend our camp's program.)

Those scouts who already learned first class can occupy their free time teaching our those skills to 1st years. If nobody in camp knew a skill, they could then schedule an open period with the S2FC camp counselor. Or not. I didn't care and the SM was okay with that.

 

The downside: because we went through three years of cross-overs going to another troop, I am paying the price now with a few venturers who are week on the orienteering (among other things). That limits their program choices. But it's a mixed group. Some who attended the S2FC program at camp, some who didn't. The real problem is a "once and done" and "no time for next level challenges" attitude that had set in. Since they weren't under the gun to teach a bunch of first-years at camp, they blew off camporees and such and got pretty rusty.


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#22 WissX

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Posted 04 June 2017 - 07:54 PM

^ merit badges give opportunity to teach new scouts skills. When I did my CIT plenty of younger scouts did rifle and archery to try it. One thing it does do is not overwhelm the staff for the area. Because our new scout program area is not that big (our entire camp is 158 acres). 


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#23 scoutldr

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 09:53 AM

Also keep in mind that some badges are not suited to younger or smaller kids.  Things such as rowing, shotgun, lifesaving, etc require more stamina and upper body strength.


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#24 WissX

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 02:45 PM

I was supposed to take shotgun at a summer camp. I am glad I was pulled. I just shot a pump action last year and my thumb was cut and my arm was sore.


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#25 Col. Flagg

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 03:40 PM

I was supposed to take shotgun at a summer camp. I am glad I was pulled. I just shot a pump action last year and my thumb was cut and my arm was sore.

 

You cannot take personal firearms to any Scout camp I am aware of UNLESS you get very special permission from your council. At least in my neck of the woods. You can get in serious you-know-what bringing a bow, firearm or even a sling shot on to council property.


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#26 WissX

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 05:11 PM

Our council recently bought pump actions and any firearm I did shoot was owned by the respective camps. :)


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#27 qwazse

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 08:09 AM

I was supposed to take shotgun at a summer camp. I am glad I was pulled. I just shot a pump action last year and my thumb was cut and my arm was sore.

Our council recently bought pump actions and any firearm I did shoot was owned by the respective camps. :)

 

I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you give it another chance. Maybe not at camp. But, many local sportsman's clubs have good youth programs. And, they are often better able to size up boys to the firearm that will work best for them. It's a lot of fun shattering skeet with extreme prejudice.


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#28 Lurking...

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 08:47 AM

Don't feel bad, My younger brother (law enforcement, knows his way around guns) has broken his nose twice deer hunting with high powered scoped rifles.  A cut on the thumb is no big deal and you'll learn over time how to hold and fire the different weapons.  A bit of strength in the arms will help with the targeting of a moving object with the shotgun shoot.  It'll come with time.


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#29 Col. Flagg

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 09:29 AM

Our council recently bought pump actions and any firearm I did shoot was owned by the respective camps. :)

 

Our council's RSO was bringing the new cache of firearms (pistols, rifles, shotguns) to the local camp when he was pulled over. Thankfully in my state, a carload full of weapons does not draw too much attention from the troopers. ;) He showed his permits and told them where he was going and went on his way.


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#30 RememberSchiff

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 09:56 AM

I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you give it another chance. Maybe not at camp. But, many local sportsman's clubs have good youth programs. And, they are often better able to size up boys to the firearm that will work best for them. It's a lot of fun shattering skeet with extreme prejudice.

The Sportman Clubs will likely start you with a semi-auto which has less recoil. As @qwazse mentioned, stock size is important for length of pull, i.e., trigger reach. Their target ammo may also be a lighter, low velocity load. 20 gauge vs 12 gauge.


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#31 Lurking...

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Posted 06 June 2017 - 05:17 PM

Check the ammo, there's field load and target load.  It takes less powder of the target load to bring down a clay pigeon and one can shoot all afternoon without getting sore. 

 

When I was at summer camp we shot clay with a .22 with bird shot loads.  We got real good at hitting moving targets, had to.  :)


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#32 JasonG172

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:34 PM

I believe my camp is the best with the best staff.  Couple of unique courses like L.O.S.T and mountain man and a few others.  (Yea I am bias)

 

Two styles of camping

1. Primitive - Cherokee side of camp  (cook your own food)

2. Amenities - Osage Side (dine in our world class newly renovated Dining hall)

 

http://www.kiakima.net/


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#33 Col. Flagg

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:51 PM

I believe my camp is the best with the best staff.  Couple of unique courses like L.O.S.T and mountain man and a few others.  (Yea I am bias)

 

Two styles of camping

1. Primitive - Cherokee side of camp  (cook your own food)

2. Amenities - Osage Side (dine in our world class newly renovated Dining hall)

 

http://www.kiakima.net/

 

Nice camp. Two things: 1) Need a shuttle or more time to get from one end of camp to the water front, 2) Crazy amount of ticks!!!


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#34 JasonG172

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 03:38 PM

Nice camp. Two things: 1) Need a shuttle or more time to get from one end of camp to the water front, 2) Crazy amount of ticks!!!

LOL your are correct about the Ticks! IF you stay at Cherokee then you're right there at the Water Front. 


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 09:35 PM

I'll take ticks over rattlers and copperheads any day.
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