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#1 RememberSchiff

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 04:27 AM

MORGANTOWN — Local Boy Scouts need the public’s help to find a dozen rifles stolen from their camp.

Mountaineer Area Council Boy Scouts CEO and Scout Executive Jeff Doty said that volunteers were last at the shed at Camp Mountaineer on Sunday evening, May 14. By the time another volunteers returned May 16, they discovered someone broke in.

 

The suspects took a safe that had 10 22-caliber rifles and four pellet rifles, Doty said. The rifles were Savage Mod Mark 1 G 22 Long Rifle single shot, birch stock with serial numbers: 1171782, 1280641, 1280644, 1280645, 1280646, 1280647, 1280648, 1280649, 1280650, and 128065.

 

The council is asking for the public’s help, and if people see one of these guns on an online site or in a store, they are asked to contact the council or the West Virginia State Police.

 

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#2 JosephMD

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 02:56 PM

The thief probably had no idea they were stealing a bunch of single shot bolt actoin 22s!  They just aren't that valuble.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 05:22 AM

From FB

 

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"A SCOUT IS TRUSTWORTHY."

The picture taken below is of the Rifle Range shelter at Camp Mountaineer. Sometime between Sunday night May 14th and last night, May 16th, an individual or more likely individuals broke into our Rifle Range building and stole one of our Sentry Safes (crap - RS) filled with 10 .22 rifles and 4 pellet rifles. Here is a description of the guns stolen:

Savage Mod Mark 1 G 22 Long Rifle single shot, birch stock with serial numbers: 1171782, 1280641, 1280644, 1280645, 1280646, 1280647, 1280648, 1280649, 1280650, and 1280653. Each rifle was blue finished metal and birch wood stocks and open sights.

 

The pellet rifles were Crossman 508 Olympic Sights Target pellet rifles with hard sided rifle cases in black and aluminum.

If you happen to see any of these guns on facebook, craiglist, yard sales, flea markets, etc. please notify us and the West Virginia State Police. We intend to push for prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.

 

We will be working over the next few weeks to repair the damages, install more security measures, and replace the stolen equipment. Any help you can give to make sure our Scouts continue to get a great program despite this disappointing setback would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

 

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My advice,

1. Do not store firearms at an unattended, remote site. Pry bars, chain saws, winch on an ATV all make break-in easy.

2. Store in a real gun safe, bolted to concrete floor, with dehumidifier. A good one (e.g. Fort Knox) will cost about twice the cost of those rifles stolen, that sheet metal Sentry safe used probably cost 1/10.

3. Alarm system with battery backup and cameras.

4. Store ammunition separate from firearms.

5. Off-season store securely off-site - local gun shop, police department.

 

What are the requirements for firearm storage at summer camps?

 

My $0.02


Edited by RememberSchiff, 19 May 2017 - 05:27 AM.

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#4 Back Pack

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 06:14 AM

It's WVA. That's a whole 'nother world there.
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#5 Stosh

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 09:00 AM

Other than target shooting, it's a pretty useless gun unless one is a patient crack shot.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:00 AM

I certainly could be wrong, but I imagine the headline is inaccurately attributed as I doubt this was an inside job.  Had it been an inside job, they would have known those firearms are all but useless on the open market.  I'd wager a friend of a friend of a friend heard about rifles being used at the camp and ransacked the storage room.  I hope they catch them. 


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:28 AM

I certainly could be wrong, but I imagine the headline is inaccurately attributed as I doubt this was an inside job.  Had it been an inside job, they would have known those firearms are all but useless on the open market.  I'd wager a friend of a friend of a friend heard about rifles being used at the camp and ransacked the storage room.  I hope they catch them.


Most camps keep their gear on site. That's pretty well known outside scouting.
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#8 RememberSchiff

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:15 AM

Well at least the firearms were locked up, unlike

 

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Maybe the BSA could re-assign their squirt gun police to firearm security. I hope Bechtel Summit down the road is more secure.


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#9 Gwaihir

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:44 AM

Most camps keep their gear on site. That's pretty well known outside scouting.

 

Maybe it's just in my circle, but most non-scouters I've dealt with have no idea that Boy Scouts shoot rifles.  Then again, I'm on the east coast, so it's a different mind set.   Either way, I'm hard pressed to believe a scout or scouter did this. 


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:08 PM

My advice,

1. Do not store firearms at an unattended, remote site. Pry bars, chain saws, winch on an ATV all make break-in easy.

2. Store in a real gun safe, bolted to concrete floor, with dehumidifier. A good one (e.g. Fort Knox) will cost about twice the cost of those rifles stolen, that sheet metal Sentry safe used probably cost 1/10.

3. Alarm system with battery backup and cameras.

4. Store ammunition separate from firearms.

5. Off-season store securely off-site - local gun shop, police department.

 

What are the requirements for firearm storage at summer camps?

 

My $0.02

Your second point pretty much negates all the others (except #4).  The cost of security shouldn't come anywhere near the cost of replacing the object you're trying to protect.  What they had here was probably appropriate to the circumstances.  You want to make it difficult for an impulsive act of vandalism or theft, but the cost of securing against determined thieves especially given the probability of having determined thieves target a remote location like a scout camp, really wouldn't be a Thrifty use of resources.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:10 PM

 

My advice,

1. Do not store firearms at an unattended, remote site. Pry bars, chain saws, winch on an ATV all make break-in easy.

2. Store in a real gun safe, bolted to concrete floor, with dehumidifier. A good one (e.g. Fort Knox) will cost about twice the cost of those rifles stolen, that sheet metal Sentry safe used probably cost 1/10.

3. Alarm system with battery backup and cameras.

4. Store ammunition separate from firearms.

5. Off-season store securely off-site - local gun shop, police department.

 

What are the requirements for firearm storage at summer camps?

 

My $0.02

Your second point pretty much negates all the others (except #4).  The cost of security shouldn't come anywhere near the cost of replacing the object you're trying to protect.  What they had here was probably appropriate to the circumstances.  You want to make it difficult for an impulsive act of vandalism or theft, but the cost of securing against determined thieves especially given the probability of having determined thieves target a remote location like a scout camp, really wouldn't be a Thrifty use of resources.  


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:17 PM

Your second point pretty much negates all the others (except #4).  The cost of security shouldn't come anywhere near the cost of replacing the object you're trying to protect.  What they had here was probably appropriate to the circumstances.  You want to make it difficult for an impulsive act of vandalism or theft, but the cost of securing against determined thieves especially given the probability of having determined thieves target a remote location like a scout camp, really wouldn't be a Thrifty use of resources.  

 

The cost of what I am trying to protect is priceless.

 

I can name at least 3 scout camps where firearms have been stolen in the last 2 years. I am certain there are more. There's a problem.


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:32 PM

2. Store in a real gun safe, bolted to concrete floor, with dehumidifier. A good one (e.g. Fort Knox) will cost about twice the cost of those rifles stolen, that sheet metal Sentry safe used probably cost 1/10.


That seems reasonable, the "safe" doesn't do anyone much good if a couple of guys can just carry it away and figure out how to get into it at their leisure.
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Posted 21 May 2017 - 06:24 AM

Our camps gun range is no different. Even if you got the safe out how would nobody notice you taking it?


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:59 AM

Or...just don't Store the firearms at the range or storage garage. Store then at the ranger's house.

Wherever you Store them if someone wants them, and the camp is not monitored Year around, they will get them.
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