mashmaster 783 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I like this idea a lot and did suggest it to the council when I retired from Council JLT Chairman. However, having the adults does have an effect on the scouts. I should note that the adults are in background supplemental staff roles. The youth do all the planning and running of the event. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2777 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I should note that the adults are in background supplemental staff roles. The youth do all the planning and running of the event. Oh I know, but we also found that scouts behave differently when their adults pass by. They enjoy a break from their troop adults. I'm not against the idea and I do think it is good idea that works. I wish all troop adults could have the experience. Link to post Share on other sites
TAHAWK 1420 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Even a good video of the course might help with some Scouters. Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh 3452 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 In our district/council, the NYLT course directors like to invite scoutmasters to be on staff for it so that they better understand what the boys are learning at NYLT. Obviously, this doesn't scale but I like the idea behind it. In our council the NYLT program is run entirely by the boys. Management and organization is a mixed adult/youth process, but the actual course is taught by the youth to youth. About 6 years ago we had a heavily populated adult staff of NYLT and everyone was going out of council to get NYLT. Now that it is exclusively youth lead, our people have returned and out of council boys are signing up as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2777 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) Our NYLT (actually JLTC at the time) was also scout run when I was the Council JLT chairman. While the scouts learned a lot from the experience, it didn't help the problem of Scoutmasters understanding what the scouts learned. That is why we added the required adult part of the course. Barry Edited February 13, 2017 by Eagledad 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mashmaster 783 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 In our council the NYLT program is run entirely by the boys. Management and organization is a mixed adult/youth process, but the actual course is taught by the youth to youth. Same here Link to post Share on other sites
mashmaster 783 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Oh I know, but we also found that scouts behave differently when their adults pass by. They enjoy a break from their troop adults. I'm not against the idea and I do think it is good idea that works. I wish all troop adults could have the experience. Agreed, about the youth, not sure there is anyway around that. Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh 3452 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Agreed, about the youth, not sure there is anyway around that. Sit in the back of the room with a cup of coffee and wait for the boys to inquire about something if they so choose. Otherwise, get a refill and repeat. Link to post Share on other sites
TAHAWK 1420 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Sign facing adults on rope dividing adult section from youth section at meeting planning the next camporee: "If you feel you just HAVE to make a comment, have a cookie instead." Link to post Share on other sites
mashmaster 783 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Sign facing adults on rope dividing adult section from youth section at meeting planning the next camporee: "If you feel you just HAVE to make a comment, have a cookie instead." Ha Ha, love it! I have way too many non-coffee drinkers. Now that I cannot understand. Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh 3452 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Ha Ha, love it! I have way too many non-coffee drinkers. Now that I cannot understand. Careful, the next thing that's gonna happen is the non-coffee people will insist the coffee drinkers have to drink tea...... Link to post Share on other sites
TAHAWK 1420 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Substitute bacon sandwiches? Link to post Share on other sites
mashmaster 783 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Substitute bacon sandwiches? Those are fighting words....... Link to post Share on other sites
TAHAWK 1420 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Bacon ice cream? Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh 3452 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Sorry, guys, but I'm not fond of hickory smoked nitrates, smothered in fake cheese. I'm from Wisconsin, I don't eat margarine, fake "cheese", or drink skim "milk". My dad worked as a manager of a dairy. Nuff said. Link to post Share on other sites
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