Jump to content



Photo
- - - - -

Tour Plan?

tour plans

  • Please log in to reply
92 replies to this topic

#81 NJCubScouter

NJCubScouter

    Moderator

  • Moderators
  • 5473 posts

Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:01 PM

This sort of reminds me of a bit from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

ARTHUR: But what was wrong with your planet? 
 
CAPTAIN: Well it was doomed - as I said. Apparently it was going to crash into the sun. Or was it the moon that was going to crash into us? 
 
NUMBER ONE: No, no, I thought it was that the planet was more or less bound to be invaded by a gigantic swarm of twelve-foot piranha bees. 
 
NUMBER TWO: No, no, no. That’s not what I was told! My commanding officer swore blind that the entire planet was in imminent danger of being eaten by an enormous mutant star goat.

 
The sad part here is that the real-life communications abilities of BSA and its councils are reminding me of a work of satirical fiction.
  • 3

#82 Stosh

Stosh

    BSA Heretic

  • Members
  • 11368 posts

Posted 25 March 2017 - 08:09 PM

I just lined my campaign hat with aluminum foil and the problem went away.


  • 1

Stosh

 

There's a reason why I don't always answer the phone, doorbell or comments on forums.  :)


#83 Tampa Turtle

Tampa Turtle

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 2443 posts

Posted Yesterday, 06:44 AM

Apparently Council posted that 'Yes, of course it is real' and implied I was stupid for asking. I don't know why I care I never filled one out anyway.

 

Our CC, who is a lawyer, said he will send them in to Council as a CYA even if it goes unread and if the new policy says 'no'.


  • 0

#84 Back Pack

Back Pack

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 224 posts

Posted Yesterday, 07:10 AM

Apparently Council posted that 'Yes, of course it is real' and implied I was stupid for asking. I don't know why I care I never filled one out anyway.
 
Our CC, who is a lawyer, said he will send them in to Council as a CYA even if it goes unread and if the new policy says 'no'.


Ours said the same thing...and he sells shoes.
  • 1

#85 TAHAWK

TAHAWK

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 2541 posts

Posted Yesterday, 07:13 AM

Our council website right now

 

Here is a repository of the latest official versions of popular forms available to download. To obtain an up-to-date and official copy of any other Scouting form not listed below, contact the council service center.

. . .

 

Unit Planning Resources

. . .

Tour and Activity plan link-html.gif

Tour and Activity Plan FAQs

 

Q. Why should I complete a tour and activity plan? 
A. The tour and activity plan is a planning tool for best practices to be prepared for safe and fun adventure. Completing the plan may not address all possible challenges, but it can help ensure that appropriate planning has been conducted, that qualified and trained leadership is in place, and that the right equipment is available for the adventure.

In addition, the plan helps to organize safe and appropriate transportation to and from an event, and defines driver qualifications and minimum limits of insurance coverage for drivers and vehicles used to transport participants.

Please complete and submit this plan at least 21 days in advance (check with your local council) to ensure your council has enough time to review the plan and assist as necessary.

Q. When do I need to complete a tour and activity plan? 
A. Times when a tour and activity plan must be submitted for council review include the following:

  • Trips of 500 miles or more; or
  • Trips outside of council borders (exception: not to your council-owned property); or . . . .

Edited by TAHAWK, Yesterday, 07:21 AM.

  • 0

#86 Tampa Turtle

Tampa Turtle

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 2443 posts

Posted Yesterday, 08:50 AM

Since I have been tongue lashed by my Council Rep for the temerity of asking for a clarification on a confusing but important issue I no longer care. 


  • 0

#87 John-in-KC

John-in-KC

    Moderator and nice guy

  • Moderators
  • 6747 posts

Posted Yesterday, 10:48 AM

ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:

 

Merged two parallel topics on the matter of tour plans possibly going away.


  • 0

#88 JasonG172

JasonG172

    Junior Member

  • Members
  • 593 posts

Posted Yesterday, 03:00 PM

Mentioned this to my SE and he was not aware of any of this.

Provided links and his statement was "I guess tour plans are going away"  DUH!!!! is there no one you could call and ask?


  • 0

#89 Col. Flagg

Col. Flagg

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 404 posts

Posted Yesterday, 03:15 PM

Mentioned this to my SE and he was not aware of any of this.

Provided links and his statement was "I guess tour plans are going away"  DUH!!!! is there no one you could call and ask?

 

Maybe he was hoping the new all-in-one Scouting channel (ScoutingWire) might actually carry that type of important news, rather than who is taking over various council positions. As it anyone outside of those councils would even care. Maybe the Scouting.org website would carry it? An internal memo to all CE to be sent to all districts?

 

[crickets]


  • 0

#90 Chadamus

Chadamus

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 121 posts

Posted Yesterday, 06:31 PM

Disappointing when you scroll down to the most recent post and see this:

 

  2 user(s) are reading this topic

2 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

 

 

Yet no response...


  • 0

#91 MattR

MattR

    Member

  • Members
  • 825 posts

Posted Yesterday, 10:30 PM

This was posted on our council website a few days ago:

 

The Boy Scouts of America has notified all councils that, effective April 1, 2017, filing the BSA Tour and Activity Plan for review by council offices will no longer be required.  The purpose of this letter is to inform you of that change to the process for Scouting units planning activities and outings away from their scheduled meeting places, as well as how that affects the chartered organization.

A cross-functional team has completed an evaluation of the BSA’s Tour and Activity Plan, resulting in a recommendation to terminate the plan effective April 1.  This team concluded that terminating the requirement would:

  • Eliminate review and processing procedures by the council staff, thereby freeing staff to focus on membership and removing an administrative burden.
  • Reduce complexity of planning activities and outings, thereby cutting back on processes and paperwork for unit leaders.
  • Increase consistency with the Commitment to Safety, the Guide to Safe Scouting, Risk Assessment Strategy, as well as Camp Standards planning tools.
  • Change the conversation, engaging everyone in risk-based planning vs. process.

This change does not remove the need for unit leaders and their chartered organizations to properly plan every aspect of outings, including ensuring that required trained leaders are present at all times during such outings, and the training dependent upon the activities being conducted (e.g., an activity involving water craft will still require leaders to be trained in the Youth Protection Program, Safe Swim Defense, Safety Afloat, Basic First Aid, and CPR).  Similarly, vehicle insurance requirements remain unchanged.


  • 0

#92 Back Pack

Back Pack

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 224 posts

Posted Today, 06:25 AM

Not sure why I continue to be surprised that BSA is ineffective when they communicate or administer anything.
  • 0

#93 RichardB

RichardB

    Member

  • Members
  • 208 posts

Posted Today, 09:55 AM

Disappointing when you scroll down to the most recent post and see this:

 

  2 user(s) are reading this topic

2 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

 

 

Yet no response...

 

But Chadamus, didn't you just respond with this post?  I wouldn't be dissapointed with yourself.  

 

As to me, my response is it's an interesting thread, I like how the OP was Tour Permit (went away in 2011) and now this post is Tour Plan (Went away in 2012).   The assumptions seen in the thread are all over the place, and anyone with a dissenting opinion or not into bashing BSA, National, Councils really doesn't get heard.   See no reason to respond further for risk of being called names.  Like pedantic.  https://www.merriam-...ionary/pedantic  Actually had to look it up, if we use the orginal Shakesperian interpretation, I'd take it as a compliment.   Maybe, just maybe if folks assumed the best from others you wouldn't be dissapointed.   Otherwise, y'all have fun.  


  • 0




5 user(s) are reading this topic

3 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users


    Chadamus, RichardB, qwazse

IPB Skin By Virteq