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#1 eagle90

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 10:30 PM

I heard a rumor at our district banquet that Tour Plans have been eliminated.  I didn't think much of iut, but I went to myscouting.org to fill one out, and it is no longer listed under Legacy Tools.  Anyone else hear anything about this? RichardB?

 

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#2 NealOnWheels

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Posted 29 January 2017 - 07:48 AM

I found it under Legacy Web Tools om my.scouting.org.  Looks like it is still there.


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#3 Eagle94-A1

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Posted 29 January 2017 - 02:22 PM

The word saying tour planners would be going away was premature. It's not official yet.

 

EDITED: This information was posted on Bryan on Scouting, and the retraction was on Facebook.


Edited by Eagle94-A1, 29 January 2017 - 02:53 PM.

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 10:49 AM

LOL I just did one Friday


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 11:25 AM

@RichardB, can you shed any light on the rumor mentioned in the original post?


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#6 Cleveland Rocks

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 01:02 PM

There was a post by Mike Walton on one of the Scouting LinkedIn Groups last week saying that Tour Plans would be going away as of April 1, citing, among other things, a desire to process less paperwork and red tape, and the fact that many units never bothered to even fill out Tour Plans when they would travel.  That post has since been removed.

 

He did note that while the intent was to eliminate them as of April 1, it was still not a done deal and that the team involved in making the decision was still taking comments on the issue.


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#7 Oldscout448

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 02:39 PM

April the First.   hmmm


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#8 Eagledad

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 02:58 PM

That is interesting. I always took Tour Plans as more of a check list to help units perform actions they may not have otherwise thought of. I admit it's a lot of red tape, but it did develop some good habits.

 

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 11:11 PM

April the First.   hmmm


Oh. Hmmm is right.
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#10 Col. Flagg

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 12:13 PM

Did anyone else receive this?

 

I checked Scoutwire and didn't see any mention of this yet. Wondering if this is just local or national.


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:10 PM

About a month ago, there was mention of it.  I contacted National to verify and then 'poof' all trace of it disappeared.


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#12 KenD500

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:11 PM

http://scouter.com/i...r-plan/?hl=tour


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#13 NJCubScouter

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:27 PM

That page from the Gulf Coast Council links to a FAQ document that is apparently from National.  Here is the document:  http://files.constan...1ac99a7d6d8.pdf

 

I notice that on each page of the FAQ it says "Updated 3/10/17 by RRB".  I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that "RRB" is the same person as our fellow forum member RichardB.

 

So my first question for @RichardB is, Are we to ignore the fact that this change in policy goes into effect on April Fools Day?

 

And my second question is, assuming that this change is real, is it time to put a note on this page, http://www.scouting....ourPlanFAQ.aspx, that the contents are about to become obsolete?


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#14 Col. Flagg

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:31 PM

 

Yeah I saw that. But with not solid evidence one way or the other, now this, I thought was interesting.

 

That page from the Gulf Coast Council links to a FAQ document that is apparently from National.  Here is the document:  http://files.constan...1ac99a7d6d8.pdf

 

I notice that on each page of the FAQ it says "Updated 3/10/17 by RRB".  I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that "RRB" is the same person as our fellow forum member RichardB.

 

So my first question for @RichardB is, Are we to ignore the fact that this change in policy goes into effect on April Fools Day?

 

And my second question is, assuming that this change is real, is it time to put a note on this page, http://www.scouting....ourPlanFAQ.aspx, that the contents are about to become obsolete?

 

I was thinking the same thing. Usually April Fools jokes are a day before or day of. Announcing THIS early would mean prior planning; something BSA is not noted for.  ;)

 

Adding an FAQ with all the links seemed overkill for a joke, but who knows.


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:57 PM

Well, the previous now-you-see-it-now-you-don't (discussed in the thread that Ken linked to) and the fact that the official national web site still refers to the requirement for tour permits, with no indication that it is becoming defunct in 15 days, does raise a question or two.


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#16 Cleveland Rocks

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 03:15 PM

Looks like other councils are making the announcement, too.

 

This is from Verdugo Hills Council: http://vhcbsa.org/to...rmination-faqs/

 

The text is identical to the document above.

 

Same for the Ore-Ida Council: http://oreidascoutin...f-april-1-2017/


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#17 Col. Flagg

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 03:40 PM

I love how the FAQ and the "recommended" language of the announcement says to sign up to Scouting Wire to get the latest information, but when you go to that site there's nothing. Nada. Zilch.


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#18 ParkMan

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 05:57 PM

Ok - I'll admit to being amused if someone has indeed pranked the councils here.


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#19 qwazse

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 06:07 PM

Gotta say I'm not at all broken up about this. As it evolved, the process wrested the control of filing plans from my youth and dumped it on me. That undermined the only benefit I ever thought it had ... Training boys in organizing themselves effectively.

Trip planning and preparation should rest squarely on PL's, den Chiefs, and crew officers. With accountability to parents via the unit leader. Until that happens, we lock our boys in a state of arrested scouting development.
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 06:35 PM

I never had to file tour plans as a scout.
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