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#1 SSScout

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 08:21 PM

Gentle Scouters:  I found this on the wall of the Counseling Office in a school I subbed at, and did some research to find the source (no one in the office knew. It was just a poster).   This is credited to =  Amy Maddox, age 16, Franklin Community High School, Bargerville IN =

It  seems she was 16 about 15 years ago .

 

“Underneath,  We’re All the Same”

 

“He prayed  --  It wasn’t my religion.
He ate --  It wasn’t what I ate.
He spoke --  It wasn’t my language.
He dressed --  It wasn’t what I wore.
He took my hand --  It wasn’t the color of mine.
But when he laughed  --  it was how I laughed,
  And when he cried  --  it was how I cried.”

 


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#2 David CO

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 10:09 PM

I think they having something similar outside every high school counselor's office.  It's not true, though. 


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 07:00 AM

Gentle Scouters:  I found this on the wall of the Counseling Office in a school I subbed at, and did some research to find the source (no one in the office knew. It was just a poster).   This is credited to =  Amy Maddox, age 16, Franklin Community High School, Bargerville IN =

It  seems she was 16 about 15 years ago .

 

“Underneath,  We’re All the Same”

 

“He prayed  --  It wasn’t my religion.
He ate --  It wasn’t what I ate.
He spoke --  It wasn’t my language.
He dressed --  It wasn’t what I wore.
He took my hand --  It wasn’t the color of mine.
But when he laughed  --  it was how I laughed,
  And when he cried  --  it was how I cried.”

 

Thank you. I couldn't agree more with all of that. I shall be blatantly thieving that for use with my troop.


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#4 SSScout

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:31 AM

David CO: 

 

""“If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?".

- (Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I).”""


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#5 NJCubScouter

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 11:24 AM

It's a very nice sentiment.

 

I knew someone was going to disagree with it, though. (I did not have anyone specific in mind.)


Edited by NJCubScouter, 12 December 2016 - 03:06 PM.

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#6 ianwilkins

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 05:59 AM

It's a very nice sentiment.

 

I knew someone was going to disagree with it, though. (I did not have anyone specific in mind.)

 

Well, at the DNA level...

 

Actually, I was watching QI the other day (esoteric UK "quiz"/comedy panel show), and they were talking about some rule of averages, or the rule of normal, or some other name that I've forgotten (fat lot of good that did then!). In australia the office of statistics worked out the "average Australian" from their stats, and discovered there wasn't a single australian that was their definition of average.

 

So really, when you look at it, we do have commonality at some level with everyone, but we are all different.

 

To quote The Life of Brian

 

Brian: "You're all individuals!"

[Lone voice]"I'm not"

 

Ian


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#7 walk in the woods

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:24 AM

David CO: 

 

""“If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?".

- (Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I).”""

Or this one:

https://youtu.be/i4VxbnGbWbM


Edited by walk in the woods, 13 December 2016 - 08:26 AM.

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#8 David CO

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:35 AM

I don't think it is at all true that people laugh and cry in the same way or at the same things.

 

Ian's quote of Monty Python provides me with a good example.  I don't find MP the slightest bit funny.  My cousin, however, finds them hilarious and quotes them often.

 

So much so, I can usually recognize the quotes, even though I never watch the TV shows or movies.


Edited by David CO, 13 December 2016 - 08:42 AM.

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#9 Cambridgeskip

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 09:30 AM

I don't think it is at all true that people laugh and cry in the same way or at the same things.

 

Ian's quote of Monty Python provides me with a good example.  I don't find MP the slightest bit funny.  My cousin, however, finds them hilarious and quotes them often.

 

So much so, I can usually recognize the quotes, even though I never watch the TV shows or movies.

 

Isn't that exactly the point of the original passage though?

 

You and Ian may laugh and cry at different things, but ultimately you both have times when you feel joy, you both have times when you feel sadness and distress. Different cultures mean people do that in reaction to different things, but all people do it.


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#10 SSScout

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 11:54 AM

I once heard a stand-up comedian claim that he was multi - lingual. That he could have a meaningful conversation with anyone in the world,  so long as they were less than 6 months old...... 


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 03:33 PM

Thanks I love this.  I am totally embedding it in my scoutmaster minute for tonight


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#12 Col. Flagg

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 04:04 PM

Ian's quote of Monty Python provides me with a good example.  I don't find MP the slightest bit funny.  My cousin, however, finds them hilarious and quotes them often.


Well, I hope you never run in to the guy with the Cat Detector Van from the Ministry of Housinge. [Someone will get this...I hope.]
 

Well, at the DNA level...
 
Actually, I was watching QI the other day (esoteric UK "quiz"/comedy panel show), and they were talking about some rule of averages, or the rule of normal, or some other name that I've forgotten (fat lot of good that did then!). In australia the office of statistics worked out the "average Australian" from their stats, and discovered there wasn't a single australian that was their definition of average.
 
So really, when you look at it, we do have commonality at some level with everyone, but we are all different.

 
National Geographic had a great special on the human genome and how we as a species spread all over the globe. It was part of their project to map the human genome and how we moved around the world. The special was called the Human Family Tree. It was pretty interesting to see color and race stereotypes blasted away when a black man had more in common with a white Norwegian man than he did with his alleged African ancestors. Or the white guy who thought he was European and turned out he was more Hispanic than white European.


Edited by Col. Flagg, 15 February 2017 - 04:07 PM.

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#13 SSScout

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 08:19 PM

So far, the one thing we humans seem to have in common, around the world, is our inability to learn from our mistakes.

 

Now, that is assuming we all admit to being human....


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 08:18 PM

What makes cultures different is not biology.  And they are different.


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