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#21 Lurking...

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 02:04 PM

I was in the BWCA fishing off the shore the first day trying to rustle up some dinner.  I heard what I thought was a jet engine and wondered why airplanes were flying over when I know it was prohibited.  Well the black cloud forming off the tree canopy was the source of the noise.  A mad dash for the tents, forget the bear bag, they can have what they want, and we were done for the night.  The buzzed outside the tent ALL NIGHT LONG.  Never had that happen before.  Like you said, after sunset they settle down for the night. Not the N. MN guys, they are unbelievable.


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#22 King Ding Dong

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:07 PM

^. I think I would take my chances with the Smoke Monster. I heard they will bite you through the tent fabric.
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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:21 PM

^. I think I would take my chances with the Smoke Monster. I heard they will bite you through the tent fabric.

 

Yep, don't go to sleep leaning against the side of your tent.  Mosquitoes love that.

 

Never wear canvas tennis shoes either, those two little vent holes at the arches is a great place for black flies to get to your skin through your socks.  Yes, they can be quite persistent and they will bite a chuck of skin leaving a bleeding wound.

 

The chiggers are nasty, but the ones one has to watch out for are the buffalo gnats.  Imagine a mosquito bite welt the size of a quarter that will itch for a month.  I'd rather roll in poison ivy before putting up with those buggers.


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 07:57 PM

we've been having some yellow flies around the house lately and a few get in when the door is opened.  Last night I was hiving a conversation with my 8 year old daughter about them.  She was saying she hopes the die, or some such thing, so I was trying to flip it to hope they go someplace else kinda thing....

so the conversation came around to all creatures being put on this earth for a reason

but honestly, between the two of us we couldn't come up with one good thing these yellow flies do....

(except to strike a good conversation with my daughter...)


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#25 King Ding Dong

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 08:35 PM

Perhaps the best tent for a SM would be one of those big Arabian tents like in the movies with all the pillows and servants. The SPL would have request an audience with the SM before being granted permission to enter. The SPL would only be allowed to only bring solutions to the SM not problems for fear of loosing a digit or limb. This could solve a whole lot of problems.
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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:07 PM

@qwazse  :)  There is no such thing as a wall "A-frame" tent.  It's one or the other.  I do have a real A-frame tent that I use for summer camp long-term camping when the camp doesn't provide a wall tent.  It's the only tent I own that I can stand up in.  I have an old Kelty 3 man tent that I use most often, but for short term camping in cold weather the old 2 man army surplus pup tent gets dragged out.  I have a very short cot that fits in there nicely and with double vestibules on each end, it has plenty of room for a single person.  My Mrs. has a nice modern/nylon 4 man tent with double vestibules we use when she camps with the troop.  For kayaking I have a one-man tent that isn't much bigger than my sleeping bag.  You can stand up in it, but all the stakes come out of the ground when you do.


Ok, wall, but since I keep all flaps rolled up (skeeters fly in, then fly right out) 'cept in windy rain, all I see is "A". :D
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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:13 PM

Sounds like you do the same thing I do, roll up the sides and doors and basically sleep under a "rain fly"    A rain fly isn't an A-frame either... :p


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:19 PM

@qwazse I do have a real A-frame that I use for long term camping.  It has no floor so I have a military cot and a Rubbermaid bin for a night stand.  Because I bought it for Civil War reenacting, I have the hooks for the top beam to hang clothes and the hooks on the uprights that handle the hanging of lanterns.  It doesn't open up as much as a rolled up wall tent, but it affords a bit more privacy without having to drop walls.  If a major storm rolls in, I move the cot away from the walls, roll up the carpet piece I use as a floor and toss it in my fold up recliner lawn chair.  I've seen a lot of water roll through over the course of many reenactments, but never gotten wet.  It's heavy and the ridge pole and uprights are a pain.  Otherwise, it's a really nice setup.


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:22 PM

Those two-man wall tents that summer camp just can't beat the patrol tents we had when I was in scouts.  All 8 of us in a large wall tent.  We didn't know it but I think we originated the basis for glamping with those things.  They were great.  :)


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#30 Krampus

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:33 AM

Those two-man wall tents that summer camp just can't beat the patrol tents we had when I was in scouts.  All 8 of us in a large wall tent.  We didn't know it but I think we originated the basis for glamping with those things.  They were great.  :)

 

Yeah, but you just can't find good Civil War surplus anywhere anymore. ;)


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:48 AM

I have these two tents: https://www.rei.com/...ter-dome-2-tentand https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Tent/FlyCreekUL2.  My son typically uses the quarter dome for plop camping and I use the Fly Creek.  For backpacking, my son and I share the Fly Creek.

 

We're thinking about getting these for our new Troop tents -- sort of a throwback but in a ultralight model: https://www.bigagnes...nt/scoutul22016

 

But for a scoutmaster, THIS IS THE TENT: https://www.rei.com/...scout-ul-2-tentall for less than 3 pounds.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 07:08 AM

Yeah, but you just can't find good Civil War surplus anywhere anymore. ;)

 

:)  These were brand new tents,  brown in color so I don't know where they were from, definitely not military (white or green).  These were the days pre-free standing tents.  Stake raids were a popular pasttime. 


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:57 PM

You should worry more about the sleeping pad than the Tent.  If you aren't going to go the way of the Hammock (which you will spend equally the same amount if not more for a Pad and Tent) the invest in a Quality Air Mat (ThermaRest or Big Agnes)

 

You can get a OneLink Eno and it has everything in it for 150.00.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 02:59 PM

You should worry more about the sleeping pad than the Tent.  If you aren't going to go the way of the Hammock (which you will spend equally the same amount if not more for a Pad and Tent) the invest in a Quality Air Mat (ThermaRest or Big Agnes)

 

You can get a OneLink Eno and it has everything in it for 150.00.

 

 

So true.  I have an REI Air Rail pad:  https://www.rei.com/...ng-sleeping-pad

 

I have back issues and it is very comfortable, doesn't slide out the side and is lightweight.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:02 PM

I'm laughing right now because we hear so much disdain for "plop" camping, and yet so many folks have these Taj Mahal tents with cots, mattresses, refrigerators and Jacuzzis. ;)

 

Tell me about it!  I was once a 1st year Parent!  Coleman 8 Man Insta tent, Queen size matress......I have now conformed.

 

I am rather confused though, don't summer camps have the tradition Platform Canvas Tents?


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#36 Krampus

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:04 PM

I am rather confused though, don't summer camps have the tradition Platform Canvas Tents?

 

I agree. Every place we have ever gone have the tents and a platform. Most have cots and mattresses. Only one time in 8 years did we need to bring our own cots.


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 08:12 PM

Thank you all for the comments, we are going to Quivera Scout Ranch and as far as I know there is not big tents provided.

I do sleep in an eno double nest hammock with a Yukon fly over it, don't get me wrong I love it but sometimes it sucks getting in and out of it.
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Posted 25 May 2016 - 09:23 PM

Hikerdirect.com by ALPS Mountaineering has great deals for scouts.

 

Our summer camp has sites with and without standing tents.  We usually bring our own.

 

One of our ASMs went with this last year at summer camp, we had torrential rains all week and he stayed dry.  It has a center height of 7 feet.

 

http://www.alpsmount...ents/camp-creek


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 09:41 PM

Thank you all for the comments, we are going to Quivera Scout Ranch and as far as I know there is not big tents provided.
I do sleep in an eno double nest hammock with a Yukon fly over it, don't get me wrong I love it but sometimes it sucks getting in and out of it.


I found the leader guide. Was surprised to see tents not provided. Very unusual but maybe that's Kansas?

Side note, I found the price pretty high for not providing tents and cots. Are similar camps in your area that high too?
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Posted 26 May 2016 - 07:24 AM

Some of the camps we have been with charge you the same if you use their tents or your own. Also no difference in price if you eat in the mess hall or cook on your own.


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