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#401 David CO

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:44 PM

Yah, hmmm.... Not all troops.   I can point to some that don't seem to have any difficulty. 

 

Da necessary ingredient seems to be an active PLC and genuine responsibility and leadership for the older scouts.   Often, but not always, accompanied by an older scouts "high adventure" type program of some sort.   The real key seems to be real responsibility.  IMO mixed-age patrols have a slight advantage here, because then the PLC becomes the home of responsible older scouts, rather than a weird mix of capable boys and newbie PLs.

 

Your point about the "age problem" for public schools as partners is a good one, though.   Kids don't often want to go back to participate in their middle school.   That's somethin' worth thinkin' about carefully.   Yeh could do a dumbed-down middle school Boy Scout program and then HS Venturing, but I'm not sure I'm a fan.  Yeh could have da HS charter troops, and then use 'em as outreach for middle schoolers.  That might make for a really robust program, eh?  Sorta like how talented middle schoolers can take HS classes.   Might really ease the HS transition for a lot of kids, which is a big one.

 

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It would be great if the Catholic high school had a unit.  That would really make the transition much easier.  But that is more of a district discussion, since the high school has a different CO.

 

I think many of our parents would feel a little uncomfortable going directly from an elementary school Cub Scout unit to a high school based troop with a different CO.  

 

There is also the question of distance.  Catholic high schools are few and far between.  We don't have one in every town.

 

I think it would be more practical for us to have a unit in both the middle school and the high school, and let individual boys transition whenever they feel most comfortable.


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#402 David CO

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 02:11 PM

I am not trying to "steal the thread" and make this discussion about my unit and CO.  I apologize to SSF  if this might appear to be my intention.  I was only trying to give an example to illustrate my point, and things got a little carried away.

 

I know next to nothing about SSF's Chartered Organization.  I don't know why SSF's CO chartered a unit, or how chartering a unit helps the CO to accomplish its mission.

 

Some on this forum may think the CO is irrelevant.  The CO's mission is irrelevant.  The CO's unique situation and needs are irrelevant.  Just follow the guidelines.

 

Obviously, I disagree.  


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#403 TAHAWK

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 04:49 PM

To acknowledge the more positive aspects of life, the other parents seem perfectly happy to see their sons serve the community.


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Posted 24 June 2016 - 08:05 PM

I have co-ed group of kids that in the past 5 weeks have been rock climbing, hiking and swimming, participated in a a week long service project for 7 different organizations and are planning on a 6 hour kayak outing this next Wednesday.  Kinda sad it isn't a BSA group of kids.


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#405 Beavah

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Posted 24 June 2016 - 10:36 PM

I have co-ed group of kids that in the past 5 weeks have been rock climbing, hiking and swimming, participated in a a week long service project for 7 different organizations and are planning on a 6 hour kayak outing this next Wednesday.  Kinda sad it isn't a BSA group of kids.

 

Yah, hmmm...

 

Why is that sad, @Stosh?   I'm delighted when other organizations are out doin' good things with kids.    Just the same way I hope they'd be delighted to see scouts out doin' great things!    We can't reach all kids and neither can they, but hopefully if enough good people and good programs are out there, every boy and girl will be reached by something fun that helps 'em learn and grow, and by someone who really cares.

 

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Posted 25 June 2016 - 05:35 AM

I have co-ed group of kids that in the past 5 weeks have been rock climbing, hiking and swimming, participated in a a week long service project for 7 different organizations and are planning on a 6 hour kayak outing this next Wednesday.  Kinda sad it isn't a BSA group of kids.

Why isn't it a BSA group?
Half the kids not allowed to consider BSA as for them until graduating 8th grade or turning 14?
Got an atheist in the bunch?
More beureaucratic red tape?
Potential CO would rather not align itself with BSA?
Some other group got their attention first?
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Posted 25 June 2016 - 12:52 PM

LGBT issues, Christian CO
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#408 SSF

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:26 AM

I'm very pleased to announce that my 17 year old son is now an Eagle Scout


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#409 fred johnson

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:03 AM

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#410 MattR

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:23 AM

Good news.


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#411 Tampa Turtle

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 12:40 PM

Congratulations! :)


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#412 sst3rd

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 02:23 PM

Outstanding!!!


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#413 SSScout

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:06 PM

Must be  a really important topic.  Four Hundred Twelve entries.   

Trouble getting to that Eagle, but when it is done, man , the relief.  The feeling of accomplishment.  Truth is, as always, some folks help, some don't.   

 

Congratulations to your New Eagle.   


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Posted 15 October 2016 - 02:31 AM

Eagles, some soar, most flap,  a few have to battle gale force headwinds.   

 

A scout salute to your son!


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#415 Oldscout448

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 02:32 AM

anyone want a BIG box of popcorn?  


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#416 SSF

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:53 AM

Thanks everyone! Definitely a very rocky and rough road, and now that it's done, a tremendous sense of accomplishment and relief.


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