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#1 SSScout

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 10:58 AM

Another World Jamboree come and gone...  http://www.23wsj.jp/index_e.html

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=VsG9JTMWYdg

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=VFoM7jHcUtg

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=doJr0P8QoFg

 

http://www.scout.org...5/content/91401  


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:06 AM

Not for $17,000. Better way to use my money.


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#3 ianwilkins

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 04:40 AM

Not for $17,000. Better way to use my money.

 

Are you saying the individual fee for participants is $17,000? How on earth does it get so high?

 

We in the UK were charged about $4500, as a top tier country our Jamboree fees help those from poorer countries go. I'd guess USA is a top tier country too.

 

Yes, I have my doubts about the Jamboree too, a lot of effort for the few, when we should be providing for the many. On the other hand, it still looks amazing, and I wish I'd gone to the Japan one, and I hope the three we sent had a ball.

 

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 05:13 AM

Are you saying the individual fee for participants is $17,000? How on earth does it get so high?
 
We in the UK were charged about $4500, as a top tier country our Jamboree fees help those from poorer countries go. I'd guess USA is a top tier country too.
 
Yes, I have my doubts about the Jamboree too, a lot of effort for the few, when we should be providing for the many. On the other hand, it still looks amazing, and I wish I'd gone to the Japan one, and I hope the three we sent had a ball.
 
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Jambo is $2800. The local council "package" was that high for world jambo. Can't roll your own trip.
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Posted 11 August 2015 - 06:46 AM

Jambo is $2800. The local council "package" was that high for world jambo. Can't roll your own trip.

 

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but your local council were telling individual scouts they would have to pay seventeen *thousand* dollars to attend the Japan Jamboree? If that's the case...(a) how on earth did they justify that? and (b) no, that doesn't sound like a good value trip at that price at all. Cruel to make it that much for something that they'll only have one chance to go on as a participant.


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 06:49 AM

Jambo is $2800. The local council "package" was that high for world jambo. Can't roll your own trip.

 

No wonder you love your council so much  ;) !


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 10:30 AM

Maybe when they schedule the World Jamboree in Bejing, your boys can get the discount passage on the slow boat to China from your council?

 

Diisclaimer: My apologies to all persons of Chinese descent who may have felt offended due to the arcane expression still in use by the older generation in our culture.


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 11:11 AM

I'd love to get you on a slow boat to China

All by myself, alone.

Get you and keep you in my arms evermore,

Leave all your lovelies weeping on the far away shore.

   Song by Frank Loesser

 

His daughter, Susan Loesser, authored a biography of her father, A Most Remarkable Fella (1993), in which she writes:

 

""I'd like to get you on a slow boat to China" was a well-known phrase among poker players, referring to a person who lost steadily and handsomely. My father turned it into a romantic song, placing the title in the mainstream of catch-phrases in 1947. ”

 

 

The idea being that a "slow boat to China" was the longest trip one could imagine.  Loesser moved the phrase to a more romantic setting, yet it eventually entered general parlance to mean anything that takes an extremely long time.

 

So, Stosh, I don't think you have to worry about the PC police knocking on your door in the middle of the night.

 

 

   
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Posted 11 August 2015 - 11:24 AM

Maybe when they schedule the World Jamboree in Bejing, your boys can get the discount passage on the slow boat to China from your council?

 

Diisclaimer: My apologies to all persons of Chinese descent who may have felt offended due to the arcane expression still in use by the older generation in our culture.

 

I've been on slow boat to China. If you avoid Beaumont you are in good shape though.


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#10 walk in the woods

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 01:14 PM

I rode this one to China once.  We didn't go through Beaumont though.

 

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 02:58 PM

Call me curmudgeon.  The videos looked like the Olympics without the contest...


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 03:20 PM

I'm confused on the costs. This is what the BSA website says about the World Scout Jamboree fees:

The cost to attend the 2015 World Scout Jamboree as part of the Boy Scouts of America's contingent is $5,750*, which includes the following: round-trip airfare from a commercial airport near the participant's home; the registration fee paid to the Scout Association of Japan; a two- to three-day tour of Japan; lodging; ground transportation; meals; troop equipment, including tents and cots; items provided to each participant including a duffel bag, day pack, neckerchiefs, and contingent patches; shipping of equipment to Japan; insurance; and other costs.

The jamboree contingent fee does not cover the cost of ticketing because of early or late departure from the jamboree site due to medical emergencies, family emergencies, and/or problems based on our Code of Conduct.

* This fee pertains to only BSA members within the United States of America and its territories.

Where do the $2,800 and $17,000 costs come from?


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 03:39 PM

I just find all the different uniforms to be amazing. Imagine the opportunities for path trading.

I wonder, did all the Scouts from that particular country fly out to Japan together as a group? I think HOA council sent 5.


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 04:40 PM

Call me curmudgeon.  The videos looked like the Olympics without the contest...


Yes but that's kind of the point.

World Jamborees are not about traditional scout skills or back country camping. It's about interntaional friendship and meeting scouts from other cultures.

I've never been to a world one but did a European one in 2005. We had poles one side of us, Israel the other side of them, Italians the other side of us and Ireland the other side of them. Across the track were Swiss and Portugese units. It's a wonderful melting point of different cultures, languages and nationalities and that is nothing short of life changing.

No it's not your average camp out but it's something unforgettable.
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#15 Cambridgeskip

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 04:45 PM

I just find all the different uniforms to be amazing. Imagine the opportunities for path trading.
I wonder, did all the Scouts from that particular country fly out to Japan together as a group? I think HOA council sent 5.


I don't know how every country did it but the UK arranged its contingent into units of 36 scouts and 4 adults with each unit travelling on different scheduled flights. In some cases that meant being on the same flight as other units and in some cases on their own.

We had 5 from my group there, all now in various states of jet lag!
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Posted 15 August 2015 - 01:23 AM

I went as IST to the WSJ, having organised an activity to run at the event. Just got back. Yes, theyre not cheap, but have to say it was one of the best experiences I've had. It's not a traditional scout activity camp but, well a jamboree, chance to meet other Scouts and scout leaders from all over the world. I had well over 47 different countries come through the activity I was running.
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 02:54 PM

A return to this.... Earlier today I caught up with one of mine that has just come back from Japan. She is absolutely walking on air! She's come back convinced she can change the world all on her own, ah what it is to be 15 and know everything :)

 

Anyway, she's absolutely determined to go to you chaps in 2019 as part of the IST. Be warned, she can talk for England and is, to put it mildly, rather strong willed.....


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Posted 16 August 2015 - 05:41 PM

Yes but that's kind of the point.

World Jamborees are not about traditional scout skills or back country camping. It's about interntaional friendship and meeting scouts from other cultures.

I've never been to a world one but did a European one in 2005. We had poles one side of us, Israel the other side of them, Italians the other side of us and Ireland the other side of them. Across the track were Swiss and Portugese units. It's a wonderful melting point of different cultures, languages and nationalities and that is nothing short of life changing.

No it's not your average camp out but it's something unforgettable.

What was your favorite uniform or uniform that was most interesting?


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#19 SpEdScouter

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 05:42 PM

I went as IST to the WSJ, having organised an activity to run at the event. Just got back. Yes, theyre not cheap, but have to say it was one of the best experiences I've had. It's not a traditional scout activity camp but, well a jamboree, chance to meet other Scouts and scout leaders from all over the world. I had well over 47 different countries come through the activity I was running.

What event did you run?


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#20 Cambridgeskip

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 01:07 AM

What was your favorite uniform or uniform that was most interesting?

 

First of all I thought I'd replied to this earlier this morning but it seems to have vanished so apologies if anything appears in duplicate.

 

Uniforms.... Iceland have amazing hats, Switzerland the best neckers, Portugal use kilts instead of trousers or shorts, the French just make their's look really grungy.  All in all quite a mixture!


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