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#1 SCOUTER-Terry

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

Hopefully you've seen several of the improvements and bug fixes that you've been reporting over the past couple of days. After our first major software upgrade in more than 10 years, there's been a few bumps, and I appreciate your patience. This thread is being created as a single, public forum where I encourage you to post any remaining issues or suggestions you want us to address, or helpful usability advice you can share with others based on your experience so far. Even if you've previously suggested something.... if it doesn't yet appear to be fixed, please post it again here. And if you agree with a suggestion that gets posted, you can Like or comment on that post to help bring it to our attention.
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#2 moosetracker

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

Although the 24 hour area is a help to get back to what most of us lived in, it still needs work.. It only shows the OP name, and time/Date the thread was created.. You do not know if anyone has added anything new without having to get into the thread to find out. Also it seems the page counter is not working right still. If the thread has more the 15 posts, it will only show the first fifteen posts, and tell you you have one of one pages and next page arrow is disabled. If you go into the page number box and put in 2, it will then fix it self, stays on page 1, but now says page 1 of 4, and the arrows are enabled, then you can go to the next page. When you can't see a post count on the 24 hour page, this makes people think there is no more after the 15th post, or if they enter a post they can't see it.
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#3 Twocubdad

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:31 PM

Probably a next week after things settle out issue, but I'd like to see a rundown of the new features. Like the comment button, messaging and customizing my settings. I don't quite understand the descriptions of items in the privacy settings, so I've left them at default for now. The new "active topics" link is a big help and I think is how many of the regulars interface the site. Thanks. I've already made it one of my home pages. Moose- I've worked around the pagination thing temporarily by resetting my posts per page to the max (40, I think). That gives me all but the longest threads and would be my preference anyway.
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#4 Polaris

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

Thanks for the Active Topics link!! Agreed with Moose. I would like to see if there are current posts within the topic before I open it. As a suggestion, please add categories to the Active Topics. There are some categories I skip over when pressed for time. Thanks for the work!
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#5 MomToEli

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:40 PM

It would be nice to be able to reverse the sort order of a thread or forum, listing the newest first. I work around it by going into the forum or thread and clicking Latest Activity - that seems to change the order - but it is still difficult to navigate. Posting a link is great except that navigating between posting the link and typing text is difficult. Last I tried I had to click one at the top of the post (write something or post link), do my business, then click the other. It would be preferrable to be able to click between panels to navigate. If that even makes any sense.
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#6 SR540Beaver

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

Hopefully you've seen several of the improvements and bug fixes that you've been reporting over the past couple of days. After our first major software upgrade in more than 10 years, there's been a few bumps, and I appreciate your patience. This thread is being created as a single, public forum where I encourage you to post any remaining issues or suggestions you want us to address, or helpful usability advice you can share with others based on your experience so far. Even if you've previously suggested something.... if it doesn't yet appear to be fixed, please post it again here. And if you agree with a suggestion that gets posted, you can Like or comment on that post to help bring it to our attention.


if some of you are new to vBulletin software, this is one of the nice features. If you click on quote under someone's post, it opens a window with their post quoted for you to respond to. No more cutting and pasting. You can also bold or color a portion you want to respond to or click inside the quote and delete anything you aren't specifically responding to. A bit of forum etiquette, you never modify another person's quote. That's a no no.

i know there are other features in the software that Terry would have to approve and turn on. One is a reputation system. It is easy for users to abuse and I don't know if it would really be appropriate in this forum. It allows you to give positive or negative rep to another user. It displays on any post you make and is more or less an indicator of "popularity". In a favorable light, it's kind of a truth in posting kind of thing. It marks a person whose posts are found to be useful, helpful or simply agreed with. On another board I frequent, there is also a Thanks button at the bottom of each post. It doesn't give rep points, but simply is an agreement with the post. I suspect in our environment, that is what the Like button is. The difference I see here is it doesn't list WHO liked the post. On my other board, it does.

Edited to add, the quote of Terry's post in my post is supposed to be in a box inside my post. That apparently isn't functioning properly here.
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#7 FScouter

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:04 PM

Clicking on the "Program" forum will not open it. Nor will some other forums, but some will open.
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#8 moosetracker

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:39 PM

Yeah, but if you look a SRBeavers quoted item, it doesn't put the thing in a quoted paragraph, it just leave open raw html code around the words.. Noticed that when people tried to do a link.

I am going to experiment with the Advanced settings here.

red text here??



Yeah, guys.. this looked Real good in the editor.. Not so goo once posted.. Looked good right now when I previewed it after editing.. Let's see if going back in and editing will now format it well.
[TABLE="width: 750"]


Table attempt

[TR]

[TD]
col 1 row 1[/TD]

[TD]
col 2 row 1[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]
col 2 row 1[/TD]

[TD]
col 2 row 2[/TD]

[/TR]


[/TABLE]



remark in quotes


Bold, italics, underlined

http://www.scouting....ingupdates.aspx - a web link

Smilie face :D

Lets Try a different font


Centered Text



right text

  • Numbering
  • second line
  • bullets
  • indented bullet
  • Really indented bullets..
[/list] Well from her all looks goo.. let see what happens with the post..
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#9 moosetracker

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

Well, does anyone else see anything pretty in my last post??? I just see ickkkkkkk...
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#10 Trevorum

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:47 PM

And the winky faces don't seem to work. That's important etiquette, ya know. ;)
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#11 chaoman45

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:51 PM

Okay... so BB code fails. I WAS going to complain that the oldest topics were popping up first in individual forums, but I think this is a guest feature. I have no problems when I log in.
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#12 kbandit

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:14 PM

Don't know if it's just me but I have a hard time reading longer posts across my entire screen. Keep loosing the sentence I am on. Looks great..
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#13 eagle90

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:08 PM

I cannot get into the New to the Forum; Open Discussions; and Issues and Politics forums. When I click on them, it reverts to the forums home page. Please fix!! Dale
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#14 qwazse

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:18 AM

I'd try to post, but keep getting this weird JSON error.
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#15 GKlose

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:31 AM

Thanks -- I'm okay with the "upgrade" so far. Looks nice. Two comments so far, but one isn't a bug, just a preference: - suspected bug: I'm using Firefox. When I'm on the Scouter Forums main page, and click on a forum name, the page refreshes but still leaves me on the Scouter Forums main page (listing all the forum names). Doesn't seem like I can actually enter a forum by clicking on the forum name. - a preference: on the main forums page, there is a lot of white space between forum names, which means that you don't see as many forum names (most are scrolled off the page). Personally, I don't like to see a lot of white space spacing things out. I prefer to see as much info on a page that I can, so I can scan more information more quickly. For the users that want a bigger font, more space, etc, they can use their page controls to zoom in and out (that part seems to work nicely on this site). Haven't used many of the new features yet (messaging, subscriptions, etc) but I like the way this stuff is heading. Nice work, to all involved. Yes, there's going to be some complaints, but dont' worry -- I think things are better.
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#16 qwazse

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:34 AM

I was going to reply to my last post with "odd, it just worked", but it said I wasn't allowed to post a reply fo 30 seconds. I guess that's one way of preventing double posts. Another way would be to compare text between the previous post and the incoming one, and only send a warning if they match. So, if this takes my reply, I'm going to try and respond ot MomToEli's pleasant little topic.
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#17 qwazse

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:17 AM

I got the error again after two successful post. It said JSON ... Illegal character. I'll try to paste here and see if I can replicate it: I tried to reply earlier, but got an error that seems to be fixed (for the moment). BD - some boys take more pride in these particular awards than Eagle scout or venturing Silver. Drives parents nuts. Gives me the giggles. Emom - The answer is really "sometimes yes, sometimes no." It depends on how much the boy was in control of the float plan. Or how involved he was in arranging the provisions for the unit. At most HA bases, which are really training facilities, the answer is "not much." So I wouldn't double count. Here's an example from some boys who never bothered to apply for the award: the first time they went to Philmont they loved it, and hiked a lot, but there was a lot of spoon-feeding to get them to that ability level. I would have counted it once. The second time, they were more intentional, chose their adventure (one of the toughest hike plans) during troop meetings where some of the younger boys could look over their shoulder and see how to do it, arranged food swaps on their arrival to provision to their satisifaction, hiked their little hearts out, and gave the adults a run for their money. I would have counted that twice. Same applies to Seabase vs. a sailing trip. In fact on our last trip, for some youth in the same boat, it would count twice, for others it would count once. Why? For some it was about the sailing. For others and their life centered on the ship and working with the captain to drive the biggest boat in their life to date. For others, it was about hopping to the next island and touring and stopping at each resort and trying their local flavor ice-cream. The other factor is how much the trip translates into the life of the unit. If a boy only does 18 miles, but did so to accomodate the needs of his patrol, or to get to a particular "sweet spot" on a map, or because the river simply wasn't any longer, then I'd let him count it if he asked. That may sound like I'm "tweaking" the requirements unfairly. But I'm trying to stick to the spirit of the award. Usually, when a youth asks me about this stuff, I'll ask them "What would make you proudest?" That changes the process from "rubber stamping" to actually working with youth.
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#18 NJCubScouter

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:20 AM

One major issue that I am having right now is that when I am at the "main forum page", clicking on certain forums just takes me right back to the same page, and not to the forum itself. For example, I just tested it, and clicking on "Open Discussion" or "Advancement Resources" takes me where I want to go and lists the topics in that forum, but clicking on "Issues and Politics" or "Scouter Announcements" does not take me anywhere. I am still able to click on the topic listed under "Last Post" on the right, but I cannot get to any of the other topics. "Issues and Politics" was working for me yesterday, but not today. There may still be other problems that I am having, but until I can actually get into all the forums, I am not even sure what other issues remain. (By the way, before anyone asks, I was logged in when clicking on the different forums mentioned above.)
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#19 JoeBob

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

1- Thank you, thank you for volunteering time to help us unappreciative old fogies enjoy this forum.

2- When moving to the next page on a Droid,
a- There were 'Next Page' and page numbers to click on on the bottoms of each screen after the 15th post. I'm not seeing them on Chrome.
b- If I used the 'Next Page' buttons, I always came up at the bottoms of the next page, and had to scroll to the top (Sometimes that was a lot of finger swiping) to read on.
I really liked the way the old forum moved form the bottom of one page to the top of the next. NOT COMPLAINING! Just feedback.

3- Thanks to my other forum buddies for adjustment tips. Especially the '40 topics' per page tip.

4- Instead of being offered "Activity in the last 24 hours"? Could we make it "Activity in the last Week"?
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#20 fred8033

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

I like the new interface ... generally. While I'll miss the t-shirt lady that was selling things, etc., the new look is very promising. I like the authoring window.

What I really really miss that was a huge feature for me was ... the ability to reverse list recently activity and just show the forum, thread name, original thread author, last poster and date of the last post. In the "brief" list there was no need to post any of the discussion because if you are interested in the topic, you will open it and read. I used to scan that list to find interesting discussions.

That's how I'd like to see the "


Click Here to view active topics since your last visit (last 24 hours and before)" function. Just do a brief list of reverse sorted thread names, forums and last posting date. The current detailed multi-screen list makes it too hard to quickly find interesting discussions.


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