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#1 ScoutDadof5

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 12:23 PM

Ok, so recently I have been working on a display of Square Knot recognition Knots for an upcoming council training event. Oh my gosh...there are like a million of them!!! LOL So I thought it would be fun to play a little game. The rules are simple: 1) Each post can only identify 1 (ONE) Square knot (Plenty enough to go around for everyone!). 2) Current and retired knots are fair game, but let's to keep this to Official BSA Knots only. (We could go on forever on "Unofficial" or "Private" issue items". 3) Any background, personal comments related to, information on how to obtain, or historical information would be fun as well, but not required. 4) And just for fun...lets number them so that we can see if we can get a running count of how many we can identify (Example... #1 The Silver Hippopotamus Knot...not really, etc.). Let the game begin!
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#2 scoutldr

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 01:17 PM

OK, I'll start with perhaps one of the rarest square knots... the Air Scouting/Air Exploring ACE award. (Blue/Red knot on gray background with Blue border) http://www.geocities.../airscouts.html
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 05:45 PM

Sounds like a cool game. I have all of the current knots on a poster in Word or PDF format if you would like. Good luck with the Explorer Silver Award knot: it has been used for at least four different awards. Ed
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#4 struax

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 06:54 AM

Lets start with the easy ones.... #2 AOL Square knot worn by Scouts and Adults alike..... Scott
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 09:27 AM

#3 Another rare one would be the Silver World Award, although not a square knot it goes in the same place. Red and white vertical stripes, with a blue globe centered with silver stars in it. From the info that I can find only 40-60 have been awarded http://www.scoutingb...Award.html(This message has been edited by click23)(This message has been edited by click23)
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#6 Eagle69

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:37 AM

#4 NESA Outstanding Scoutmaster - white knot on khaki backgroun
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#7 jr56

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 12:32 PM

#5 Eagle, Red, White, and Blue on a Kahaki background (has been produced on other background colors such as white, black, and green)
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 12:45 PM

> #4 NESA Outstanding Scoutmaster - white knot on khaki backgroun Sorry that is the Scoutmaster Award of Merit. The same knot is also used for the Varsity Scout Coach Award of Merit and the Venturing Advisor Award of Merit. And, no, I don't know why there is not one for the Cubmaster or Skipper. Ed
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:15 PM

"Good luck with the Explorer Silver Award knot: it has been used for at least four different awards. " Oh? Which awards? I am aware of: * Explorer/Air Explorer Silver Award * Explorer Achievement Award * Explorer G.O.L.D. Award * Explorer Scout Ranger Award (when its unique knot was dropped early one) * Air Scout/Air Explorer Ace Award (again, when its unique knot was dropped early on) I've ran into Scouters who claimed it is also allowed for the Explorer Leadership Awards (which became the Venturing Leadership Awards), but I have NEVER seen any evidence to that.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:17 PM

"#5 Eagle, Red, White, and Blue on a Kahaki background (has been produced on other background colors such as white, black, and green)" Not quite. It was first produced on khaki, forest green, white, and navy blue. While never officially made on sky blue, others have done so. Later produced only on tan. (current uniforms) Others now supply 'repros' on green, white, and navy.
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#11 emb021

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:21 PM

"> #4 NESA Outstanding Scoutmaster - white knot on khaki background" "Sorry that is the Scoutmaster Award of Merit. The same knot is also used for the Varsity Scout Coach Award of Merit and the Venturing Advisor Award of Merit." Well, he's actually correct. Its the NESA Scoutmaster Award of Merit Award. Early on, the NESA connection was dropped. Only later was it extended to Varsity Scout Coaches and Venturing Advisors. "And, no, I don't know why there is not one for the Cubmaster or Skipper. " well, a Sea Scout Skipper IS a Venturing Advisor, so that would work. Only problem is the requirements for the Venturing Advisor version speaks of the Venturing Silver Award program and not the Sea Scout Advancement program.
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#12 Cubmaster Randy

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 02:04 PM

Cubmasters can earn the Cubmaster Award #5 navy blue knot on gold field
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#13 BrentAllen

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 02:06 PM

#6. William D. Boyce New-Unit Organizer Award - Worn by those honored for starting a new unit. We started a new Troop in September, so I'm very familiar with this one. Description The William D. Boyce New-Unit Organizer Award is presented to recognize volunteers who organize one or more traditional Scouting units. The award may be worn on the adult uniform. The award is a white square knot placed over the three colors representing the three phases of our programCub Scouting, Boy Scouting, and Venturing. A volunteer can earn the knot by organizing one traditional unit, and a program device can be earned for up to three additional units organized. The award recognizes volunteers for organizing traditional units after March 1, 2005. http://scoutleaderaw...wards/boyce.asp
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#14 Oak Tree

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 03:05 PM

#7 - Tiger Cub Den Leader knot Black and orange on yellow background with orange border. This one always jumps out at me when I see it on a shirt. The colors are very different from the other typical knots.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 04:49 PM

#8 - One of the newer (if not newest) knots - the Pack Trainer Award - a rather gaudy blue and yellow twisted cord on a yellow background with a blue border. http://www.scouting....-595/index.html
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 04:58 PM

#9 Scoutmasters Key Green and White knot with green backing #10 Silver Beaver Blue and White knot With tan backing My two most prizes square knots
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#17 emb021

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 06:20 PM

"#9 Scoutmasters Key Green and White knot with green backing" Actually, its now the Scouter's Key, and is just a green and white knot. The background cloth is not important, and was available on khaki, forest green, white, and navy for Scoutmasters, Advisors, and Skippers. Its now only available on tan, tho you can get 'repros' on green, white, and navy. "#10 Silver Beaver Blue and White knot With tan backing" The Silver Beaver knot was also once available on forest green, white, and navy. Again, you have to go elsewhere for those.
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#18 derf56

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 09:21 PM

#11 Scouters Key Green knot with kahki backing This is the first knot i earned.
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#19 moxieman

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 09:02 AM

#11 Scouters Key Green knot with kahki backing This is the first knot i earned. The solid green knot is the Scouter's Training Award. As to #4, according to a story on Mike "Settummanque-Black Eagle" Walton's Know award website, it started as a local-joke patch known as the "Why Knot" to recognize newer scout volunteers: http://www.mninter.n...le/cnclknot.htm And to add to the mix #12 International Scouter Award If I recall...Purple and white. There are a set of requirements to earn this--there are five categories of requirements and you need to complete 6 of the total of 15 requirements out of at least 3 categories to earn it. Some of the options include being on staff/attending a world jamboree, participate with scouts in a scouting event in their nation, host scouts from another nation at some of your scouting events, take up a collection for the World Brotherhood of Scouting fund at two different events, etc. I'm close to finishing it. One of the advantages of living in a border state. Settummanque also has an extensive list of both real and fake square knot patches on his website. Top page for that section is: http://www.mninter.n...le/knoindex.htm
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 09:11 AM

#13 Religious Emblems Award Silver knot on Purple background with purple border.
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