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#41 JasonG172

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Posted 12 March 2015 - 11:21 AM

does that mean that I'm defiantly in as a Den Leader?


good job! learn the ropes, find out what needs to be done but as others have said GET TRAINED. Not just online either, thats ok for YPT but get some on hand training.

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#42 paemt

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 08:51 AM

I attended UoS yestetday. It was awesome, very I'm infirmative. I wish some of the sessions would have been longer....
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#43 JasonG172

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:12 AM

Awesome! Get Baloo Training, OWLS Trained and IOLS....get all the training you can, Listen to others around you and observe while you have these fantastic outings with others from around the council. Then you will realize "Hey, we aren't doing it right" FIND that passion to lead your boys into the wild and teach them all that can be taugh, in the end the Greatest Satisfaction is them coming up hugging you and saying Thank You!
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#44 jlglmg2010

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:25 AM

Just want to clarify how the Comprehensive Background checks are going to work/affect volunteers. I am still fairly new to Scouting with just one year Scout Year under my belt.

 

1. will any adult that is involved with their OWN child need to be have clearances (basically will any and all adults that plan on being at any event need to have clearances)?

 

2. IF any adult or leader (current or new) has done anything wrong in their lifetime will they be banned from Scouting including just as a Scouting Parent even if they are cleared by the State to work with children? 

 

3. will an child be asked to not return to Scouting if their parent cannot be cleared or if they can be cleared but their unit isn't comfortable with the adult being there due to a record ?

 

4. Does the Unit or Council have say in whether or not an adult may be involved in Scouting under new regulations?

 

5. Does the Unit or Council get the copy of the Background Check/Clearances?

 

6. Do they need the entire background check or just the clearance letter stating that they are cleared to work with children?


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#45 Stosh

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:33 AM

Just because one has paid their debt to society doesn't mean they aren't going to pay for the rest of their lives too.  There are self proclaimed vigilantes out there that will make sure that the past will never be just the past.-


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:37 AM

Just because one has paid their debt to society doesn't mean they aren't going to pay for the rest of their lives too.  There are self proclaimed vigilantes out there that will make sure that the past will never be just the past.-

 Is this a general post or are you responding to another post in this thread?


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#47 Stosh

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:48 AM

It was aimed at a few of the comments about having records expunged, modified, etc.  The whole aim of the background check process is to see what is in a person's past.  If one has paid their debt to society for a wrong-doing, shouldn't that be sufficient, otherwise are we not running counter to the Law of the Land which states the punishment should fit the crime?  Well, if one's past haunts them for the rest of their lives through background checks, then everything from DWI to murder and rape are life sentences.  

 

They don't care about traffic infractions as much as other issues.  Anything dealing with sex is an automatic life-time, no questions asked, sentence.  Traffic ticket?  Well that probably got lost along the way many moons ago.  Well, the sexual tendencies of a person are one thing, but the speeding and disregard for the traffic laws is quite another.  Who do you want driving your kid around the country?

 

Background checks thus become more political than practical, and open the door for all kinds of vigilantism on the part of those "interpreting" the results.  Good luck with the fairness of all that.


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#48 Gone

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 08:07 AM

@jlglmg2010, very complicated and I doubt anyone here can answer your question completely. In the end it's the charter org and national that have the say.

1) According to BSA adult volunteers need to pass a background check. Many units require you to be a member to attend events. Everyone must take youth protection training.

2) That's up to national and the charter org. I've seen folks with DWI accepted but barred by the CO from driving scouts. I've seen folks with a battery charge be denied despite have done their time.

3) Usually the kids are not involved. If there's a borderline case where national approves but the CO is still cautious most units will work with the CO on how the parent in question can be involved. Again this is very open since national and the CO have all the day.

4) Not sure what new regulations you're referring to. National and the CO are misty involved in background checks. Councils get involved in other membership issues and may have some say depending on the issue.

5) Can't speak for council but negative checks do go to the unit. At least we got two that got kicked back to us.

6) We got the full check from Lexis/Nexis. Our CO also runs a detailed check. Can never be too careful.

Advice would be that if you have something in your past best to sit down and talk to your unit leads and CO so it's not a surprise.

http://www.scouting....owtheFacts.aspx
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#49 SSScout

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 06:53 AM

Perhaps jlglmg2010 is speaking of the Pennsylvania background check requirements (see http://scouter.com/i...hl=pennsylvaniathread).

Any way, it is pretty much as friend Bad Wolf (who ain't all that bad in reality) said .
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