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#21 JasonG172

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Posted 12 February 2015 - 10:31 AM

I definitely changed my life around. Have earned an AAS and a BS since then. I have worked to hard to get where I am now. I see trouble I go the other way.


Sounds like you're ready to lead then! Good luck. Talk to your leaders and COR
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#22 Stosh

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 07:26 AM

Once one pays their debt to society, the punishment is over, unless one sets themselves up as judge, jury and executioner and adds punishment beyond what the law states. I have worked with people who have fallen into this category and the chicken/egg thing always results. 1) they can't get a job, their friends are limited, the stigma is always there to remind them and their only option is to skirt any possibility of rehab that isn't going to get one anywhere anyway. 2) Spend the rest of one's life looking for that one person who will give them a second chance. It's not that these people want to go back to the "old ways", but society keeps them prisoner regardless of whether there are bars and guards or not. Once these people are convinced that they will never be free, it's just a matter of time before they give up and go back to the system that will at least take care of them. I guess it all depends on how strongly one believes in "help other people at all times." Stosh
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#23 BadenP

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 05:25 PM

As a former DE who handled a similar case with a potential volunteer, a RECENT DUI conviction will disqualify you because of possible risk to the youth and BSA policies regarding felony convictions. The CO has no authority to override BSA National's decision.
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#24 packsaddle

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Posted 13 February 2015 - 10:25 PM

Cubmaster721, I'm responding to your reply from last June. A recent local event brought it all back to me again, as it has so many times: a drunk driver with a record that goes back to the early 1970s killed three persons and himself in a multi-car collision. The 'system' had many opportunities to end his ability to kill and the system failed miserably. So to your reply about my anger last June, I can only say that it isn't anger that a drunk will see in my eye when we meet. It will be something much colder than that. A drunk is like a hand grenade with the pin pulled. If given the opportunity, a drunk driver will go off someday at an unpredictable time and the only hope that I have is that the drunk will be alone in an excruciatingly painful death. My anger, in the meantime, is directed at persons and the system who would give 'second chances', or thirds or fourths - to these undeserving persons. A single DUI conviction should be a permanent disqualification for BSA.
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#25 paemt

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 09:27 AM

This is a reply to Jason G.....So I turned my Application in and was told by the CM that the CC and another individual whom I think is the CO would be signing the application this week and that Council would have it by the end of this week. I was also advised to take register for University of Scouting. With this all being said, is this a good sign that I will be approved?
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#26 jr56

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 01:04 PM

Sound like a good sign.
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#27 paemt

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 10:07 AM

How long does it take for an Adult Application to be approved and and for the Applicant to be notified if they were approved or not? Its been about 3 weeks since I submitted my application.
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#28 jr56

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 12:51 PM

Should be a done deal by now. Call and check.
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#29 paemt

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 08:07 PM

Should be a done deal by now. Call and check.

Who do I check with? I asked the CM yesterday but they haven't heard yet either. I don't want to step on anyone's toes as they say
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#30 SSScout

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 10:03 PM

"It depends". If you hear nothing, all to the good. If you were found wanting in any respect, you would hear ASAP. Now that doesn't mean your Council will do it right the first time. Your app may still be sitting on the shelf at the Council office. Some years ago, we discovered the secretary in charge of such things put the apps on "her" shelf as she received them, the last one on the top of the pile, so to speak. And then took the first one off the top of the pile to process. Guess what? She never thought about the order they had been received. The bottom of the stack languished until someone (like you) asked the SE about it and they investigated.
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#31 BadenP

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 04:33 PM

National has to run a complete criminal background check on you because of the DUI and that can take sometimes 2-3 weeks alone then there is the review process, probably two more weeks at least.
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#32 paemt

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 06:26 PM

I didn't have a DUI....so if there's anything in your background they do a more detailed check than that of what First Advantage or Lexis-Nexis would do? Anyways I contacted Council (local) today and they told me that I was approved. With that bring said, does that mean that I'm defiantly in as a Den Leader?
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#33 qwazse

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 08:04 PM

I didn't have a DUI... defiantly in as a Den Leader?


I hope you are compliantly in as a den leader! :)
I think this was your last hurdle. Now get as much training and you can spare time for and help those boys have some fun!
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#34 paemt

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 09:09 AM

I completed fast track, youth protection, safe trek, safe afloat and about 4 or 5 others already Including Tiger and wolf. Also taking UoS this weekend.
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#35 paemt

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 09:10 AM

What do you mean by compliently.
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#36 qwazse

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 12:48 PM

What do you mean by compliently.


Sorry, just playing on words. Your earlier post said "defiantly" instead of "definitely" -- auto-corrected, I suspect. Work with your boys for a while and they'll tease you for less.

Sounds like nobody's holding your past against you, and you're on the right track. Have fun at UoS!
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#37 BadenP

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 01:32 PM

paemt = Earlier you stated you had a recent DUI now you are denying it, I have to seriously question your honesty and integrity and what kind of influence you will have on the boys. A scout is honest!
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#38 paemt

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 01:39 PM

I never said I had a dui.....i posted a question under the post for whomever had the DUI. But thanks, badenp.
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#39 BadenP

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 02:03 PM

paemt You are correct and I apologize to you, I mistook you to be the original poster.
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#40 paemt

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 02:27 PM

At BadenP.....apology accepted.
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